Profile Auto Save Discussion

Don Cunningham

I'm still thinking an on/off option is the simplest, then both can do as they like.  Of course, I'm not a programmer and this may be less simple than it seems.  Thanks for the consideration though, Eric.

Johan _ SE3X

Please keep it simple guys! On/Off or it will never happen in near time.

Why complicate matters? Just for the sake of complicating things, or what?

Joe N3HEE

Chris, I understand what you are saying and yes it will work but it seems like alot of effort to make it happen in software tweaks. 

I just find it easier and more convenient to come back after dinner turn on the rig, and without doing anything, have my TX profile loaded and driving the now cold amp to 1500 watts.  When the amp heats up again I simply back the power down.  My profile is not overwriten.  This is how it currently works in version 2.49.

I guess we will see what Flex chooses to do.

ctate243

Joe I hear you.  My needs of course are a bit more demanding.  As an SO2R operator I am cqing on 2 bands at the same time.  If my amp gets warm and the power drops, If I make an adjustment, the next time I switch back and fourth.. my settings are lost with the old profile method.  Now at least I can remain persistent and not have to re-tweak constantly.  Its a PITA.  so having the perisistence per profile load session makes the most sense.  Lets leave the programming difficulty to the development team. 

Lasse Moell

Some want to have the profle to autosave other want it to stay as it was from the beginning. Why not have a "file lock"-feature, if this is set, that specific profile cannot be overwritten, you may save as a new. If the profile is unlocked it do changes as per V3.

Wim

Adding my vote for a simple on/off setting for the autosave feature as I would not like to use it, as it would change my 'golden profiles' settings , so I would need to double the amount of profiles I have the golden ones and the scratch ones, it's already complicated with mic profiles, global profiles, transmit profiles, already too complex to start with

Patrick

Make it optional with a selection button in the profile selection window. Orr have a pop up window that asks if you would like to save new settings.

Eric-KE5DTO

Soon!  If I had an exact date/time, I would tell you. 

Eric-KE5DTO

FYI -- this issue was addressed today and will be going into the next Alpha release for testing.  Thanks again for bringing this to our attention.

Neal Pollack, N6YFM

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Rich McCabe

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Matt NQ6N

Autosave sounds like a very smart change.  Can't wait to start using it. 

Michael Wheatley

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I have $199 burning a hole in my pocket and as soon as the Auto-Save feature gets the On/Off switch I will buy V3.0!

Robby

Bill -VA3WTB

Robby, when you saved your profles, any time you sellect that profile you saved, all your settings will come up just as you set them.

In case of anything going wrong you can set the max transmit power to say, 30w. That way if anything happens it will never transmit over that power level.

Robby

Wrong.

ctate243

Robby, I think that was a terminology mistake, I think what Bill meant is that you can re-import a saved set of profiles to get yourself back to where you need to be, as suggested by Eric W.   So when you have all your settings they way you want them, save that off to a file, and if you need to revert after making adjustments duing your session, simply re-import.  takes about 5 seconds.

Bill -VA3WTB

Chris, Robby said he created a profile called 27w. then when he sellected it, his settings were not there as he thought.

Robby, under the TX tab under radio settings, you can set your max power out to 27w. This will protect you from a mystake.

ctate243

The best short term solution is to get the settings where you need them, export them, and then re-import if things get out of wack.  I have been doing this for years testing alpha versions of software that can have a wide range of effects.  If I need to, I to a clean reset and re-import.  Its not that difficult, works well and gets you where you need to be, quick.  Yes.  its an extra step.  but it works.  and its easy.

ctate243

and yes, setting a hard power cap in the radio settings is always a best practice.

Eric-KE5DTO

Michael,

We appreciated the feedback and have already begun the design phase of how we will handle things.  Unfortunately, we were not in a position to complete this work in a timeframe that would make sense for this release.

I've learned over the years not to give estimates on how long something will take that is early in the design phase.  There are too many variables and too many following steps for me to be any good at guessing that target.  I can assure you that it isn't as easy as just adding an on/off switch.    Suffice it to say that we have heard loud and clear that this is a desirable feature (disabling Auto Save) and that we are exploring how that will work technically.  Once we have something for you, we'll let you know.

Eric-KE5DTO

I agree with others here -- the recommended way to protect from overdriving hardware like an amp is to use the Max Power setting and not to rely on profiles or the persistence of a setting to protect you.

Tom W3FRG

That's a fantastic idea IF YOUR AMP requires the same input power level on all bands.
I've never come across one of those amps to date.
My LDMOS requires an input power range from 5 to 20 watts over the HF bands the FRS operates.
Now, unless I've missed something, how do I set the MAX POWER setting to satisfy these conditions?

Resetting this value each time I change bands is an accident waiting to happen.

I'm really disappointed that Ver 2.51 included this error in programming. In reality its really designed for operators that don't/won't read the manual and cannot create a Profile. 

Tom W3FRG

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Al_NN4ZZ

Hi Tom,
Similar situation here.  Still on V2.4.9 and have two profiles that have worked great for me for years.  My setup is very basic and the mode is always CW.  

• AMP ON - different power setting per band, it does also vary quite a bit. 

• AMP OFF - set to preferred power for barefoot operation by band

Occasionally I'll tweak the power but don't want it to affect my profiles.  I like knowing I can rely on the profile values.  I don't see how setting the max power would work for me.  I wouldn't want to set it to the lowest "AMP / Band" setting and have to adjust it up for all of the other bands --  that would also require me to remember the setting for each band.   

Not a big deal for me to wait till the AutoSave ON / OFF switch is added before upgrading.  Sounds like there will be a 2.x and 3.x release eventually with this feature.  The Flex team knows that it is something many folks want so I don't doubt we'll see it eventually.  

Regards, Al / NN4ZZ  
al (at) nn4zz (dot) com







 

Jon_KF2E

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