Question about TX/Mic Profile Changes in V3

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If I’m not mistaken that in V3 it will save your TX/Mic settings in real time as you make changes, That sounds cool but lets say I make a bunch of changes that I don’t like can I still save & load a stored TX/Mic profile?

Or is this new feature “Destructive” in that if you make changes you don't like or by mistake that's it your setting are “Destroyed” and non-recoverable?

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Could any of the Beta Testers of V3 or anyone answer this question?
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KY6LA - Howard, Elmer

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Final method of operation is still under development
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OK well if it is like I described above you can clearly see how this would be a problem.
Imagine people messing up their settings and not being able to get back to where they started.

I make changes to my settings all the time but I want to decide when to save my setting.
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Agreed.
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Scott Russell - N1SER

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Agreed as well. This needs to be refined to allow this as an option or to have a way to revert back without having to export and import profiles all the time.
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NDA
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QSL.
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Just a thought, one way to handle this is to have a temp file being written to in the background logging all the changes the user makes during their session, Then either the user can click a simple save button to instantly save changes or when the user exits ssdr it will ask "Do you Want To Save Session Changes?" YES or NO.
If the user clicks YES the data from the temp file is saved to the master file in the Radio. 
If the user click's NO the temp file is wiped.

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Until this can be turned off in v3.0 this is yet another reason I wont be updating my software.
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As has been stated, this is the first installment, the bigining of this feature build.
But for now just treat it the same as always. Export you profiles to a file, save it were you want. If anything gets messed up, inport the last good working profiles.

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Or one could save the profile under another name before any changes are made. Then one could fall back to it if needed.
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 As I understand it you can still use the import/export functions as before but now in V3.0 it will save changes to the current profiles selected. So for example lets say you have a Transmit profile called “SSB_Xmit” and a MIC profile called “HandMic” as it was before version 3 you had to manually save your changes now in V3.0 when you make any adjustments those are now saved as you make them to the “SSB_Xmit” & “HandMic” files. 

He is the problem I see lets say you get everything setup the way you like and while you are using the radio you change a setting or two by mistake now your files like “SSB_Xmit” & “HandMic” are messed up.

Now I know you can create file with another name and them back up from those and re save but that makes the radio more difficult to use if every time I use my radio I have to keep going back and fourth with my profiles to avoid overwriting my master profiles.

Again as long as there option to turn Auto-Save off I'm OK with this new "feature" but if not this is not an improvement to me this is a total deal breaker. I want to decide when to save my changes not Auto-Save.

If this does not get addressed in an upcoming version I am fairly certain I as wall as other users will never up grade their software.

Just a thought, one way to handle this is to have a temp file being written to in the background of the radio logging all the changes the user makes during their session, Then at the end of session either the user can click a simple save button to instantly save changes to the current profiles or when the user exits ssdr it will ask "Do you Want To Save Session Changes?" YES or NO.
If the user clicks YES the data from the temp file is saved to the users currently selected profiles  in the Radio. 

If the user click's NO the temp file is wiped and no changes are saved.

The other way is to have a simple menu option to turn on or off the Auto-Save feature.

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If you have profiles setup the way you want them and don't want them to change, I would suggest creating new profiles to store these.  Then you can always use these as a starting point for creating other profiles.  So if you have a profile called "SSB_Xmit" that you like and don't want to change, you can create a new profile while "SSB_Xmit" is selected and name it "SSB_Xmit_Backup".
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Hello Eric, I get that it just makes more work for me to have to keep re loading my backup files and re saving to my primary files to keep from loosing my master settings.

I get the concept of master.xx and master_backup.xx, this just means more file management for the user.

How about a menu option to turn Auto-Save Off or On?
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I have had to get used to the change also. 

I actually grew to like the TX Profiles saving "on the fly" because it made setting my band/power profiles much easier.  (I have three -- 100 Watts, 5 Watts, and 1 Watt) that I change to at will when playing around with friends and testing prop paths.

I was not as thrilled with the Mic Profile doing the same.  However, I have learned to keep a backup file of only the Mic Profiles just in case I mess one of them up badly.  Then I only need to reload THAT particular Mic Profile,

I was more sensitive to this than many, I guess, since I have about 20 different mic profiles for different Mics, different locations, different clients, and different purposes (a minimum of three for each mic - Rag Chew, DX/Contest and "Really Punchy."  I have been known to use all three during the same QSO as the band changed rapidly, just to finish the QSO.

What I don't like is that if I turn VOX on for a while and then change profiles, the next time I activate that Mic Profile, the VOX is still active -- not good when you have a dog and noisy kid in the house and don't remember the VOX is turned ON!

I would also like to see the option for an auto-save off/on button, or the ability to lock particular Mic Profiles so that when I want to change away from a profile that I have adjusted it asks "This profile has not been saved, do you want to save it before changing Mic Profiles?"  or "Do you want to save this Mic Profile before changing to a different one?"

But in any case, it is always a good idea to have a backup of your current TX and Mic Profiles.

BTW, the idea to create within your regular Mic Profile list is an OK idea, until you have that "D'oh!" moment when you find that you have accidentally changed your favorite home station profile thinking you were changing your remote mic profile because the client didn't remember which mic to use.

In addition, Having over 20 profiles in my list already, having 20 more of them in the same list as backups would really clutter the list up beyond all usability.  That is why I have made a backup Mic Profile export file.
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Ken,

I really like your suggestion of having an "auto save off/on" feature.

I have tons of mic profiles as well, (made using the method described in your very nice FDX monitoring video), so my default would definitely be "auto save off".

73,
John AF3K
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Ken,
Hope they fix this in a later version.
I'm still on v2.49 and is stable and works better with my digital programs.