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Starlink and Smartlink usage

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w5ap
w5ap Member ✭✭
edited July 2022 in Remote Operation (SmartLink)

Is anyone using Starlink satellite ISP with Flex (Smartlink) to access their equipment remotely?

Any comments appreciated ie. can you do Smartlink without a fixed IP etc.

Or is it even possible as Starlink uses IPv6 ?

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  • KD0RC
    KD0RC Member, Super Elmer Moderator
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    SmartLink does not work with Starlink.

    https://community.flexradio.com/discussion/8024042/smartlink-and-starlink


  • Mike-VA3MW
    Mike-VA3MW Administrator, FlexRadio Employee, Community Manager, Super Elmer, Moderator admin
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    Maybe

    I describe it here: https://helpdesk.flexradio.com/hc/en-us/articles/4414672618267-Remote-Operation-Working-around-CGNAT-is-it-possible-

    However, it seems that StarLink has a Business version that will give you an actual WAN address that 'should' work with SmartLink, but I don't know anyone who has it yet.

    And, there is an upcharge for it.

    73

  • w5ap
    w5ap Member ✭✭
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    Tnx Mike

    I also read some comments from Tim about using a special VPN.

    However, it looks difficult to implement and Starlink has no real support other than questions/answers.

    So I've decided to stick with my current ISP and hope they improve

  • fhmassey
    fhmassey Member ✭✭
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    there is a port forwarding for starling available from remote.it. Would that work?

    Fred

    AE4ED

  • Mike-VA3MW
    Mike-VA3MW Administrator, FlexRadio Employee, Community Manager, Super Elmer, Moderator admin
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    No, there is no Port Forwarding on StarLink due to the type of network configuration they use which is called CGNAT.

  • Craig Williams
    Craig Williams Member ✭✭
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    Our local cafe in east San Diego mountains switched their internet to Starlink. Connected my iPhone to it and ran my flex 6400 just great.

  • Mike-VA3MW
    Mike-VA3MW Administrator, FlexRadio Employee, Community Manager, Super Elmer, Moderator admin
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    @Craig Williams

    From a user end, there will be no issue. Now, if the radio you were attempting to use was hosted in the Cafe, it would not work.

  • Dave W5UN
    Dave W5UN Member, Unconfirmed ✭✭
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    I encourage Flexradio to develop a means to operate remote (with acceptable latency, eg. less than 100 ms/second) over cgNAT. I know about vpn Azure, but that method proves unacceptable due to extreme 400 to 500 ms latency. There are methods described by HB9VQQ, and HB9CAT posted here on the community that supposedly result in acceptable latency, but these methods are too complex for a guy like me to implement.

    Dave, w5UN

  • Alan
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  • Alan
    Alan Member ✭✭✭✭
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    I use PepWave products for my LAN and WAN access. I have said before, that the hardware based PepVPN will do level two bridging, necessary for the Flex UDP packets to pass. This will give you direct access to your Flex, from a remote location.

    Also, many have asked about using StarLink for FlexSmartLink, but...because StarLink uses carrier grade IP, the public IP address is not accessible. Some have asked for work arounds for this.

    Having commented on these two option, using PepWave Routers, here is a link to a forum where on integrating StarLink and PepWave Routers is discussed, including several "use case" examples.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Z_6eNEhkA

    Alan. WA9WUD

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