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FreeDV going Mainstream
Just came across this several day old news regarding FreeDV, read below. I haven't seen anyone comment about this in the community yet. You would hope this would bring life back the FreeDV waveform since every FlexRadio 6000 series radio is ready, just need the waveform updated that actually works. The day a new, working waveform is released you would have many FlexRadio users installing and using it.
Hoping there is a developer willing to take this on. Anyone have more information on this ?
FreeDV Aims to Bring Open-Source HF Digital Voice Into the Mainstream
San Diego, CA, March 09, 2023 --(PR.com)-- To advance the state of the art in HF digital voice and to promote its use, Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC) has awarded $420,000 to the FreeDV Project. With this grant, the FreeDV Project team will:
- Hire experienced digital signal processing developers to work with the volunteer staff to improve speech quality and improve low signal-to-noise ratio operation, making FreeDV performance superior to single-sideband (SSB) over poor high-frequency (HF) channels.
- Work with commercial HF radio companies to embed FreeDV into at least two commercial radios, greatly reducing set up effort and reducing latency.
- Continue development of a suite of advanced, open-source HF modems, with the goal of making FreeDV’s digital performance comparable to VARA at both low and high signal-noise ratios.
- Continue support of the existing software library (libcodec2) and application software (freedv-gui), and embedded FreeDV adaptors (SM1000 and ezDV).
- Better promote FreeDV online and in person at amateur radio clubs and conventions.
The FreeDV Project team believes that the work funded by this grant will:
- Open the path to widespread adoption of a truly open-source, next-generation digital voice system for HF radio.
- Provide a mature, open-source low-bit-rate codec useful for a variety of amateur radio and commercial applications.
- Provide a suite of high performance, HF data modems for open-source data applications usable by any radio amateur.
FreeDV is a low-bit-rate digital voice mode for HF radio. Initially developed by David Rowe, VK5DGR, an international team of radio amateurs are now working together on the project. FreeDV is open-source software, released under the GNU Lesser Public License (LPGL) version 2.1. The modems and Codec 2 speech codec used in FreeDV are also open source. Hardware and software developers can integrate FreeDV into their projects using the FreeDV API. To operate FreeDV, radio amateurs either run the FreeDV GUI application on Windows, Linux and OSX machines or use the SM1000 FreeDV adaptor. Either method allows hams to use a single-sideband HF radio to send and receive FreeDV signals. To learn more about FreeDV, go to https://www.freedv.org
Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC) is a California-based foundation with roots in amateur radio and the technology of internet communication. The organization got its start by managing the AMPRNet address space, which is reserved for licensed amateur radio operators worldwide. Additionally, ARDC makes grants to projects and organizations that follow amateur radio’s practice and tradition of technical experimentation in both amateur radio and digital communication science. Such experimentation has led to advances that benefit the general public, including the mobile phone and wireless internet technology. ARDC envisions a world where all such technology is available through open source hardware and software, and where anyone has the ability to innovate upon it. To learn more about ARDC, go to https://www.ardc.net.
Thanks for posting this Mike. It will be interesting to see where this leads us.0
I saw this too and decided to download the latest Windows version of the s/w and the manual.
We could start using this now using the computer mic thru DAX input to the rig, but it would be WONDERFUL if someone could come up with a waveform and we could use FreeDV 'natively' just by selecting it as a mode!
Hey, maybe we could even sched a 'FlexDV' net???0
With 10M open, it would be fun to play with above 28.500Mhz just for fun.0
Yea back in the early days of SmartSDR I used to get on FreeDV and use it a lot with the built in Wave form and have used it off and on for about 8 or 9 years. The Flex's High Dynamic Range make it well suited for FreeDV.
It was a sad day when they removed support for the API and the MODE selection in SmartSDR for FreeDV and D-Star.
Anyway maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel and it will come back now that FreeDV got a infusion of the Grant and we can have it back. That would be a good day.0
I had an old version still on my puter so when I saw the article I grabbed the latest version. Now to get it configured correctly to work. With the settings below I can see the waterfall but hear nothing, assuming that is because there is no FreeDV signal to decode. As per transmitting, I connected Heil headset for microphone into the desktop mic input and confirmed it's working fine, but I don't see any levels in the Frm Mic display when using PTT to transmit. The DAX is on in SmartSDR and I see the digital transmission. For testing, when I switch the input from microphone to computer to the DAX MIC Audio and turn off the DAX button in SmartSDR I do see the proper audio waveforms in the Frm Mic display. So I'm scratching my head why the FreeDV software doesn't pass the Realtek microphone through.
Audio Config Receive
Input To computer from Radio ---> DAX Audio RX 3
Output from Computer To Speaker/Headphones ---> Speakers (Realtek High Defintion)
Audio Config Transmit
Input from Microphone to Computer ---> Microphone (Realtek High Definition)
Output from Computer to Radio ---> DAX Audio TX (FLexRadio Systems)
PTT config: PTT Ports use serial port PPT check, use DTR and DTR +V check, this is the only combination that would make PTT function proper.0
I tried this a couple of years ago and wasn't impressed. After reading the article yesterday, I decided to give it another shot and was quite pleased with the results. They have made some nice improvements. Last night I was on 10M and talked to a guy in Houston for nearly 30 minutes w/ 50W on my end and his. I'm using a G5RV. The quality I must say, was acceptable to me. Quite fun.
73 de N3MLB0
I'm the guy who wrote this press release. :) I am the Communications Manager for ARDC. I also own a Flex 6400.
I'll point Mooneer, K6AQ, who's on the FreeDV project team to this item. It would really be nice if someone could hook him up with someone who's responsible for developing this waveform. Flex could really get a step up on the competition if it would support FreeDV more natively.1
Hi all, this is Mooneer K6AQ. Thanks to Dan KB6NU for pointing me to this thread :)
> @"Mike VE3CKO" said:
> I had an old version still on my puter so when I saw the article I grabbed the latest version. Now to get it configured correctly to work. With the settings below I can see the waterfall but hear nothing, assuming that is because there is no FreeDV signal to decode. As per transmitting, I connected Heil headset for microphone into the desktop mic input and confirmed it's working fine, but I don't see any levels in the Frm Mic display when using PTT to transmit. The DAX is on in SmartSDR and I see the digital transmission. For testing, when I switch the input from microphone to computer to the DAX MIC Audio and turn off the DAX button in SmartSDR I do see the proper audio waveforms in the Frm Mic display. So I'm scratching my head why the FreeDV software doesn't pass the Realtek microphone through.
> Audio Config Receive
> Input To computer from Radio ---> DAX Audio RX 3
> Output from Computer To Speaker/Headphones ---> Speakers (Realtek High Defintion)
> Audio Config Transmit
> Input from Microphone to Computer ---> Microphone (Realtek High Definition)
> Output from Computer to Radio ---> DAX Audio TX (FLexRadio Systems)
Something easy to check would be whether Windows has given the FreeDV application permission to access the microphone. More information can be found https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/turn-on-app-permissions-for-your-microphone-in-windows-10-94991183-f69d-b4cf-4679-c98ca45f577a. This sounds like it's the case if your microphone works with SmartSDR, but it doesn't hurt to make sure.
You can also try the "Windows Sound Mixer" device instead of the Realtek one to see if that helps. Depending on your Windows mixer settings, both should go to the same place.
> PTT config: PTT Ports use serial port PPT check, use DTR and DTR +V check, this is the only combination that would make PTT function proper.
On recent versions of FreeDV, you should be able to use Hamlib with Flex radios (either with "FlexRadio 6xxx" or "Kenwood TS-2000" for "Rig Model"). No need to use serial port PTT.
BTW if you're using SmartSDR for Mac, you can specify "localhost:5001" or similar for the Hamlib configuration instead of COMx and it'll work the same way.
> @"Dan KB6NU" said:
> It would really be nice if someone could hook him up with someone who's responsible for developing this waveform. Flex could really get a step up on the competition if it would support FreeDV more natively.
There are engineering challenges to work through to make this happen for sure. The grant should definitely open up opportunities to make progress there.0
Not the Problem with your Audio but here is my PTT settings that uses TCP CAT control instead of a CAT port.
My TX Audio is a bit low and there is not a MIC boost on the SURE MIC driver I can enable so I'll have to find a XLR Mic Preamp or a higher gain MIC
Mike, like Mooneer mentioned and the example that Bret posted, you can use either hostname:port or Kenwood TS-2000 as I do for PTT, and match the SDRcat port to the slice you use, and be sure to check the box for HAMLIB, instead of the PTT port that your example shows.
That should get it going for you on PTT.
If that doesn't work successfully, please feel free to contact me at [email protected] or join us on the FreeDV QSO finder at http://qso.freedv.org, and I would be happy to work with you to help get this going.
all the best,
Walter/K5WH, also from the FreeDV Project Team0
Thanks for the PTT hostname:port tip, that works as should. I confirmed FreeDV is among desktop apps allowed to use the microphone and it is switched on. Did a computer reboot to be sure and still same thing, odd the mic input works in other apps.
I installed FreeDV on a laptop and went smooth, working. Just now need more activity. With my bad hearing I find other digital voice modes very difficult to understand words, perhaps with continuing improvement audio quality will be better.
Here is my vote to get a working FreeDV waveform back in the 6000 series and to the bragging rights that will follow.2
You can also try a Bluetooth or other USB headset and see if that makes any difference, but glad you got it working on your laptop at least!
BTW for those interested, the monthly Activity Day is this weekend (Saturday and Sunday, 3/18-19) and every third weekend of the month thereafter. It's a great opportunity to chat with other FreeDV users and test your setup :)0
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