Any update on Tuner Genius?

Burch - K4QXX

There was supposed to be a working tuner displayed at Dayton before Covid-19 shut it down.   It's been over 3 years since I ordered my PGXL and still no news on the tuner.  Can Flex give us an update?

Ray - K6LJ

Hi - I was recently told that the Beta units were modified and sent out to the testers. I suggest you email them directly for the current status. I know they are working hard to get them ready for production.

Burch - K4QXX

I am curious who told you that.  Was it from Flex or 4O3A?  The only info I have been able to get the last 6 months was from the 4O3A group and that was like pulling teeth.  I have reached out to Flex multiple times about the status and have never had a return email so I'm not doing that anymore.

Patrick

Flex would have been better served if they would have made a deal with a company like Palistar. And have them do some simple communications mods, like have USB DRIVERS to run with Flex. It would not have have taken 3 years. Could have been ready quickly with some commitment. I could be wrong, but those that made a deal for the free tuner may never see it. I was one of those, but ditched the deal and bought another brand, which included built in tuner. For give me here for being a devil’s advocate as I do like Flex very much, but they may have bitten off more then they could chew.....

DL4RCE

Don't worry, I have been to the factory just couple of days ago. I cannot share any specifics but it is on the way...

Regards

Volker

K4QXX

I am still waiting for the free tuner. I have held off buying one. I have seen a picture of it so it looks like there is a least a prototype. Hopefully the 3 1/2 year wait will be worth it.

Patrick

Well, good luck....! In my case I just lost confidence in this situation, time and money rule and I’m not getting any younger. And there was two specs on the tuner that changed my mind in the end. It’s not a wide range tuner and number of switched ports.

K4QXX

Understood. I waited for the amp and I am extremely pleased with it. It was worth the wait. The tuner looks just like the amp, but smaller. I don't know if pictures can be posted on the new forum but a friend texted me a picture of the tuner that was posted on Facebook and it looks great. Just hoping it comes out soon.

HCampbell WB4IVF

Thanks for the heads up Burch! I found the pic on Facebook – looks like it was just posted.

More grist for the mill!

Howard

Gonzalo

Still waiting on my free tuner too. I have a Palstar and an LDG (that I use with the PGXL), all wire antennas here. I would really like to integrate tuner/amp/rig.

Bill AB7AA

Studying the photo, it's interesting that the TG software seems to imply that it now has two inputs (A & B) verses the one that was initially talked about. These inputs appear to be independent from the outputs on the PGXL and this would be a major improvement over what was initially proposed!

Any speculation on what the three disks are in the software with values of 12, 4, 8? Are these related to the three antenna outputs rumored or could these be values in a CLC network?

73,

Bill AB7AA

DL4RCE

Hi Bill, SO2R 2in 2out.

Volker

Bill AB7AA

Thanks Volker! That's welcome input!

Any idea about the disks?

73,

Bill, AB7AA

KM4CQG

I wasn't expecting such a big box on the Tuner.

Ian

DL4RCE

Hi Bill, I missed the tuner by one day, so I did not habe a Chance to Look at it, only some parts of it. But it is related to tuning I would assume.

Volker

HCampbell WB4IVF

It's blurry, but the 12, 4, and 8 appear to be values of C1/L1/C3 respectively, and can possibly be manually set via the knobs underneath the display.

The dual A/B in- and out-ports are an unexpected but very welcome feature!!!

Howard

Mike-VA3MW

What you see may not be the finished product. Or, it might. :)

Mike

Steve K9ZW

@Mike-VA3MW Or could it be one of a family of potential products? (That is my outsider's bet.)

73

Steve K9ZW

Blog: http://k9zw.wordpress.com

Sergey KN7K

Sorry Mike, could not resists 😋

"What you see may not be the finished product. Or, it might. :) " - What you see may not ship in 2021. Or it might . :)

Sergey

Mike-VA3MW

Sergey

You know the company policy! :)

Seriously, once we have something to share on the TGXL and shipping, we will share it. Unfortunately there is nothing I can share at the moment.

73

Neal Pollack, N6YFM

rather funny that no one mentioned this, in that picture they are not using a Flex to drive the amp and the tuner. :-) It looks like an older Yaesu rig. I mean, SERIOUSLY!? The work station is labeled Final Calibration and Test, like a factory position, and they are not "driving their own car"? :-) (My FLex 6600 mops the floor with THAT rig...)

HELLO? Flex Marketing Dept: Pull this thread, and re-stage a proper photo using ALL Flex products in your final test station. :-)

Steve K9ZW

@Neal Pollack, N6YFM - The picture came from 4o3a is not a FlexRadio picture or location..

As the 4o3a team has a raft of radios they have displaced from their contest station, so it isn't surprising that an off-cast would end up as a bench-mule.

Likely the 4o3a team will test with every radio combination they have on hand throughout the development process.

73

Steve K9ZW

Blog: http://k9zw.wordpress.com

Eric-KE5DTO

Just a few comments:

1. FlexRadio will absolutely honor the original agreement to provide the Tuner Genius to those that are owed one based on when they bought the Power Genius amplifier. It has taken longer than we wanted, but like the amplifier, we are confident that it will be worth the wait as we are holding to the same high standards. We understand the anticipation and frustration with the timing. We're right there with you. We appreciate your patience while we work with 4O3A to deliver on our promises with a product that will make you and us proud.
2. The Tuner Genius does indeed support SO2R similar to the Power Genius (2x In, 2x Out).
3. Steady progress continues to be made on the Tuner Genius. We will make announcements when it is ready.

K4QXX

Thanks Eric

Butch

... it's interesting that the TG software seems to imply that it now has two inputs (A & B) verses the one that was initially talked about. These inputs appear to be independent from the outputs on the PGXL and this would be a major improvement over what was initially proposed!

Reference above. It looks like the TG Utility is showing both the 160M and 20M bands (on its ports A and B). I'm wondering if the TG will be able to handle two auto-tuned circuits at the same time?

KF4HR

W2PP

Any news here guys on if it will ship this year?

Peter

Mack W4AX

@W2PP we are targeting early Q1. There are several high current capacitors that are unobtanium due to COVID manufacturing shortfalls. We are pressing our suppliers in every way possible.

73,

Mack

W4AX

Program Manager

Butch

Any news here guys on if it will ship this year?

Peter

Peter - I asked this question on the 403A Forum 4 months ago. This was their response:

..., thanks for your interest in TGXL.

At this point we cannot give any specific date.

Unfortunately, as you know, there are global issues beyond our control.

We work very **** it, and it is almost around the corner. Dragan, 4O4A

Butch

KF4HR

Mack W4AX

If you’ll read the list just previous, I already answered the question.

Butch

Mack, are the TG units being built in the US or by 403A in Montenegro?

Butch, KF4HR

Mack W4AX

@KF4HR Butch. They are built by 403A but alpha/beta tested by FlexRadio to ensure they meet specifications and for integration into SSDR.

Mack

W4AX

TGXL Program Manager