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CW Bug with 6400M internal keyer. Ver. 2.6.1

Paul  KB3ML
Paul KB3ML Member ✭✭
edited June 2020 in SmartSDR for Windows
This one had me going in circles.

  When using CWX memories  and the internal keyer the radio will occasionally lock up in transmit.  It will behave like the t/r relay is sticking and the power button will stay Red indicating transmit.
I first thought it was RF, but ferrites would not help. I even did a Factory reset with no help.

What is happening is if you send with the paddles and send a memory before it has time to drop, it will cause the radio to stay in Transmit mode.  You must press the PTT to unlock the TX.

I sometimes send my call to be sure of his copy and then send the message which causes the problem. I guess I am a little fast on the message button.

This needs corrected in firmware.

Comments

  • KD0RC
    KD0RC Broomfield, COMember ✭✭✭
    edited June 2020
    Hi Paul, I have been trying to recreate this issue, and cannot make it behave this way.  I am doiing it on a dummy load.  Can you make the issue happen on a dummy load?  If not, then amybe it is RF sneaking in somewhere.

    73,
    Len, KD0RC

    Edit:  I just noticed that you are on V 2.6.1.  I am on V 3.1.11.  That may explain it...
  • Paul  KB3ML
    Paul KB3ML Member ✭✭
    edited May 2020
    Yes, It will show up with a dummy load or antenna with any power output level.

    Just make sure you are still sending with the paddle when you start the memory.

    It also works fine if using an external Memory keyer for the memory.

    Good to see if newer SW versions have it right. 

    TNX.  Len
  • KD0RC
    KD0RC Broomfield, COMember ✭✭✭
    edited May 2020
    Under 3.1.11, if the key is pressed when I start the memory, it tries to play the memory and whatever is sent by the paddles at the same time.  As soon as I release the paddles, the memory stops and the rig unkeys.  A bit of strange behavior, but no real issue.  I can't be sure that 3.1.11 fixed the issue, but I can't recreate the problem, so I think it is likely the software version.  Maybe someone from Flex can chime in to confirm.

    Len
  • Uwe - DK3WW
    Uwe - DK3WW Member ✭✭
    edited June 2020
    Hello Len, I have exactly the same problem with my Flex6600 and SSDR 3.1.12. The problem should actually be known. The latest updates from SSDR have unfortunately not brought any improvements for CW. It doesn't seem to be a priority ...
    73! Uwe
    DK3WW
  • WW1SS - Steve
    WW1SS - Steve Member ✭✭
    edited June 2020
    Nothing seems to be a priority. CW Bugs, NB don't work ,tuner does not work. But still selling known defective equipment.
  • Uwe - DK3WW
    Uwe - DK3WW Member ✭✭

    Steve: FLEXRADIO makes a lot of money in the military sector, drone controls, etc. That is probably more important than amateur radio and has priority ...

  • W5WTH
    W5WTH Keep Radio Fun!!! Member ✭✭

    FWIW, my macros make things on my 6400 wacky if I end them early. It's aggravating.

  • Paul  KB3ML
    Paul KB3ML Member ✭✭

    Very frustrating !

    They have been aware of this problem for about a year now .

    They assigned a trouble ticket to this problem. G7759

    No excuse for such a long wait !

    Paul

  • Lasse SM5GLC
    Lasse SM5GLC Member ✭✭
    edited February 21

    G7759 is not this bug, that is about spurious drop out of power (seems to be OK in 2.4.10).

    What I have seen is when CWX (or any computer generated CW for that matter) and the manual keying get in conflict. What I noticed when using N1MM is that aborting a message by tapping the paddle may leave the radio unsure which keying stream that is in charge. By sending one char on keyboard may "flush" the buffer and revert back to normal, a lot faster than trying to buttons on the Maestro trying to drop the PTT. (Or it may be the other way around one need to tap key to release depending on timing that caused the event )

  • Lasse SM5GLC
    Lasse SM5GLC Member ✭✭

    Come to think that since reverting back to SSDR 2.4.10 I have yet to see this hanging issue! And if I recall correctly there seems a bit less delay, i.e. everything is more responsive than what I remember from 2.6.2.

  • Paul  KB3ML
    Paul KB3ML Member ✭✭

    G7789 is the number I was given when I had my trouble ticket open. I just checked it again.

    That is all I know. I can not argue with that.

    Yes , some times the radio can be unlocked by tapping either paddle to send a character.

    However some times it is necessary to re boot the radio.

    Very frustrating in a contest. I sure wish they can get it right.

    Paul

  • Lasse SM5GLC
    Lasse SM5GLC Member ✭✭

    Paul,

    I just commented on that you posted G7759 :)

    And once again, I have yet to notice the lock-up using 2.4.10...

  • Paul  KB3ML
    Paul KB3ML Member ✭✭

    G7759 is what I was given.

  • Lasse SM5GLC
    Lasse SM5GLC Member ✭✭

    Paul,

    you have me a bit confused, you say: "G7789 is the number I was given..." and the posts "G7759 is what I was given"

    The issue with spurious power drop-out was said to me beeing given G7759. And I assume the G7789 is what the transmit lock-up is about. Correct me if I'm wrong :) And by downgrading from 2.6.2 down to 2.4.10 I have not noticed any of these two bugs! And as a bonus the latency seems to be noticable less.

  • Paul  KB3ML
    Paul KB3ML Member ✭✭

    I was wrong when I sent G7789. poor typing.

    Sorry, The number they gave me with the trouble ticket was G7759.

    I am running 3.1.12 . I am waiting for 3.2 to come.

    After I see 3.2, I may fall back to 2.4.10.

    TNX Paul

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