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IC7300
I have just bought a new IC7300, really just for curiosity.
I am now selling an IC7300...
There is no doubt it is very good value for money if you want an SDR with knobs.
The recovered SSB audio is excellent
The transmit audio is outstanding even with the fist mic supplied (FlexRadio take note...)
Its a very quiet radio until you get into the real weak signals and it is in this area that you quickly see, that it is not in the same class as the 6700. But then that's what we should expect and are happy to pay the money for in the Flex, plus a host of other things.
Will be interesting to see what Yaesu do in response.
G4BIM
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I am interested in how it is remoted. Does one need a local client computer and a CIV cable or is it remotable over Ethernet? If it is remotable, does it include IQ data for panoramic display on the client computer? Can it be remoted over a WAN? If so, what is remotable?
Jim, K6QE
Hi Steve, I have been reviewing radios for nearly 50 years, you get to know how it is very quickly.
There is no problem comparing Ford to Audi, its just sometimes the contrast is not as wide as you might expect and you might be pleasantly surprised.
Icom are not ****, if you want all the extra bits like LAN/Ethernet and external HDMI display, then you wait and buy the next generation of the 7700/7800 etc.
Thanks for your comments
http://www.icomamerica.com/en/downloa...
73, Barry N1EU
Well, comparing a nice Flex 6700 to an Icom IC-7300 is an apples to oranges comparison, IMHO. For instance, in my particular case, I will be mounting my IC-7300 in my Merc G550 SUV, using either the Icom AH-740 or AH-760 autocoupler antenna systems, I own both antenna sysytems, and plan to see which one performs better in a mobile environment. Not really very realistic to stick a Flex 6700, a PC, and a monitor screen into my G550. BTW, as to "comparisons," my brother owns a 6700, as well as an IC-7850, plus he should be receiving his IC-7300 tomorrow, when UPS arrives. He plans to do an A/B/C comparison, albeit he is the first to admit this is an "unfair" test!
JM2C, IMHO, and YMMV!
Br,
Larry
WA7LZO/WR7DV
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Jack - WA2OLZ
It is just fun to peruse & observe the posts & responses from day to day, not just in this forum, but in any area of human endeavor...Most people talk past each other. A common method of human communications is to set up the straw-man argument of the obvious premise, most of which is likely accepted by both parties, but worded in such a manor that seems to demonstrate that the other fellow disagrees, and then argue against the other fellow for not accepting the obvious! Many times people, me included, will post and be answered with this technique. I am certainly guilty myself, although I try to be on a sharp lookout for It...It is, however, a fun study of human communications & behavior...This is not a critical remark, just an observation of how difficult it seems for us imperfect humans to communicate with each other...even when we speak the same language and arrive with similar skill-sets & perspective...It is always fun to observe just how little we actually hear each other. 73 OM de W3DCB Daniel
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John KK4FZI
My brother and I also received our 7300's last Friday, and we can both attest to the outstanding performance of this inexpensive little gem. $ for $, I don't see how it can be beat, by anyone, at this point (Hello, Kenwood and Yaesu? Wakeup, please!). Jim owns an Icom 7851, Flex 6700, and now the 7300. I was about to pull the trigger on a nice 6700, but comparing $9k to $1.5k? I think we are experiencing a huge shift in ham radio competition here. No, the 7300 ain't no outstanding Flex 6700, but I can think of a few other things to do with the spare $7k+ saved, like a new antenna, amplifier, oil change on my G550, etc. I love the Flex. But wow, as Icom launches additional SDR's in their uplifted series, as things progress, and prices them accordingly, it will be great. As Jim mentioned, it is very handy not having to fool with the mess of running a PC to play ham radio. Everything is fully self contained in the 7300 (except for the PS-126 switcher, of course). As The Donald might utter, this is simply called the "Economics of Beautiful Capitalism!"
PS - Sorry to stray from pure Flex subjects, but this little box is a true SDR breakthrough, at least in so far as price/performance ratios!
73,
Larry
WA7LZO/WR7DV
73 W9OY
73 W9OY
Indeed, when we equate price with value, we deceive ourselves.
On the other hand, there is often a limit to frugality. Sometimes we can be so cheap that we waste money by purchasing poor quality items that break or wear out and must be replaced so often that they actually cost more to own than if one had bought better quality in the first place. (Cheap hand tools, for example, or cheap coax!)
I am sure that the 7300 will be much better than a "Cheap hand tool" for many hams. It will be better than many have ever had. I doubt that it will be competitive with the 6500/6700 in many categories, but for many hams it will be "good enough."
It will not be good enough for other situations that demand higher performance. But this is why companies have many different levels of equipment.
If I had the available financial reserves, I would probably like to play with one and evaluate it as a mobile, portable, RV-ing, or backup rig. It looks to be at a nice price point, similar to the Kenwood 590 and others in that category.
Indeed, I wonder what the Big Four have in store for additional models at other performance levels? The competition is going to be fun. It is a great time to be a Ham!
Even with the 7300 or an upscale SDR without the need for a computer, what do you run all the 3rd party software on. Digital modes?
I think we are starting to beat a dead horse here, with something that is really a matter of personal choice/opinion.
While I expressed my personal dislike to have to be tethered to a PC to run an HF SDR radio, some folks are coming back expressing why my personal opinion is bunk, by their personal way of thinking, and in their personal opinion. The mandatory need for the use of an external PC to operate an SDR radio, vs/ operating an SDR rig with knobs and buttons, sans any need for an external PC, is an extremly personal matter and choice, so one really can't declare "edicts" on this.
For me personally, I don't like to have to run a PC to use my Ham radio. I talk to guys all the time on dstar who are using ID-51's 5 feet away from their raspberry pie, tethered to their 4G LTE cell phone. If this is the case, why not just make a full duplex, clear as a bell cell phone call, with no minutes of use charges for mobile-to-mobile chats (e.g., as Bernie would say, "free"), or better yet, use Facetime on one's iPhone with video?
Please, now, no flames.
JM2C, IMHO, and YMMDV!
Larry