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multiple antennes - one coax to atnenne genius - need retune everytime

Wim Van Cauter
Wim Van Cauter Member, Unconfirmed ✭✭
in Tuner Genius XL
am currently working with the following setup:

Flex 6600

1 coax cable to the mast

Antenna Genius (at the base of the mast)

Tuner Genius XL

On, for example, 40 meters, I have 3 antennas:

A beam

An inverted-V

A vertical antenna

Problem:
When I am operating on 40 meters and want to switch from one antenna to another, I have to retune the tuner each time. This is quite inconvenient.

Question:
I know there is a solution that makes this unnecessary, probably by creating groups (antenna/tuner combinations) in the software.
Could you please advise me on how to configure this correctly so that the tuner remembers the settings for each antenna and I do not have to retune every time?

Thank you in advance.

Comments

  • Mike-VA3MW
    Mike-VA3MW Administrator, FlexRadio Employee, Community Manager, Super Elmer, Moderator admin

    Have you configured all you genius products correctly? Are both the AG and the TG linked to the radio?

    I have 3 - 40M antennas and when I change antennas on the AG, the TG picks up stored values.

    You may have to tune each of your band segments 3 times at least once (once for each antenna).

  • Alan
    Alan Member ✭✭✭✭

    I appears from your description, the TG follows the AG, correct. The correct? The correct genius sequence is Flex Radio, TG, then AG. Then, as Mike says, follow the Geniuse Setup guide to link all the communication s together.

    Because the AG has knows the frequency to antenna data, it provides this to the TG to find the tuning solution for that antenna……this would explain your constant need to re-tuning.

    Alan. WA9WUD

  • Wim Van Cauter
    Wim Van Cauter Member, Unconfirmed ✭✭
    Yes, they are linked. I am only using one antenna port on the tuner since I only have one coax running from the shack to the mast and the Antenna Genius.

    Do I need to create groups? How can the tuner remember the different antennas/settings, considering I am only using one coax and one antenna port?
  • Wim Van Cauter
    Wim Van Cauter Member, Unconfirmed ✭✭
    the problem does not occur if I only have one antenna for a band; in that case, it remembers the correct tuning settings.

    The issue arises when I switch to a band where I have the option of multiple antennas.

    My question is: does this have something to do with creating groups? Output relays?
  • Alan
    Alan Member ✭✭✭✭

    The AG frequently to antenna config works for either Flex/TG ant1 or ant2. Again, when you select ant 1, your only antenna, The ag buttons will activate any antenna that you programmed to work with the freq set in the TX slice, ant1. The AG sends the freq and antenna you select to the TG for it to find or store the tuning soluction.

    Sounds like you have not configured the AG freq to antenna table.

  • Alan
    Alan Member ✭✭✭✭

    q-does this have something to do with creating groups? Output relay

    No. Groups are used in the OM module, which you do not say is in your configuration.

    Alan. WA9WUD

  • Alan
    Alan Member ✭✭✭✭

    Here is a screen shot of my AG Band to Antenna Table.

    Alan

    Screenshot 2025-07-31 at 5.17.21 PM.png
  • Wim Van Cauter
    Wim Van Cauter Member, Unconfirmed ✭✭
    ok, so where do I need to do this?
  • Wim Van Cauter
    Wim Van Cauter Member, Unconfirmed ✭✭
    Hi Alan, same here, what about the output relays?
  • Alan
    Alan Member ✭✭✭✭

    I suggest you read the manual. You can download this from the 403A downloads site. Here is a link;

    https://4o3a.com/support/downloads

    Alan

  • Wim Van Cauter
    Wim Van Cauter Member, Unconfirmed ✭✭

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  • Wim Van Cauter
    Wim Van Cauter Member, Unconfirmed ✭✭

    thx

  • David Decoons, wo2x
    David Decoons, wo2x Member, Super Elmer Moderator

    is this the 1x3 TG or SO2R TG?

    Only the SO2R model supports 20 tuning memories per band per antenna with up to 4 antennas per band.
    The SO2R TG pulls the config from the 2X8 AG.. The 1X3 TG does not.


    73
    Dave wo2x

  • Wim Van Cauter
    Wim Van Cauter Member, Unconfirmed ✭✭

    Hi Dave, the 1x3 , so no solution? 73 Wim

  • David Decoons, wo2x
    David Decoons, wo2x Member, Super Elmer Moderator

    1x3 would have 20 memories per each of the three antenna ports but not multiple antennas with Antenna Genius


    73 Dave wo2x

  • Wim Van Cauter
    Wim Van Cauter Member, Unconfirmed ✭✭

    Hi, So no solution I guess… '73 Wim

  • David Decoons, wo2x
    David Decoons, wo2x Member, Super Elmer Moderator

    solution would be SO2R TG and then AG. Then you could have four antennas per band, each with up to 20 memories per antenna per band.

    This is the way 4O3A designed it.

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