Pretty awesome AI driven noise cancelling Software - RM Noise

Been testing RM Noise for a couple of months now it works well . The only downside is needing an internet connection to connect to the remote server to process the audio. The more users there are, will introduce latency. You can see the difference watching your spectrum display as another station is speaking. It's OK for casual use. But, in a pile up, the delay will cause you to miss the contact.

James

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I didn't say it couldn't be done. Just that there is latency added using an off site server to process audio. And it effects timing. Also, the more users there are using the server, the greater the latency will become. I like the software very much. But, I would prefer not having to depend on an off site server to process the audio. If the developer would consider making his application a standalone application that needs no internet connection at all, then I think he could easily sell it to many users.

But, from the correspondence I have received from him, he has no plans to make his application standalone, independent of the internet. Therefore, I continue to test other methods to improve noise reduction for my 6600M. I have tested several VST plug-ins that work fairly well. Some require an internet connection to process the audio and others do not. It is an interesting exercise trying to find something that will improve audio without it introducing artifacts to the audio. Or being ineffective with weak signals.

Actually, my true hope is that Flex Radio will take the initiative to fix the DSP functions in SmartSDR and make it what it is truly capable of. ( one can dream!)

James

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Free to use for now. While all you have stated is true to a great extent, latency will increase as more users start using the system. At some point this application will no longer be free. Server access isn't free. So, someone has to pay the bills. It will have to be the end user. ( unless the developer is extremely rich and this is a tax write off 😀 )

I think many people are enamored of the thought of AI for all kinds of things. The more you depend on something, the more you will be effected if it fails for some reason. I consider RM Noise a good example of what can be done for noise reduction. But, it's dependence on an off site server to process the audio doesn't make it a reliable method for audio processing. Make it a standalone application and I will be in line to purchase it. Especially if it's at a reasonable price. But, what really needs to happen is Flex Radio steps up their game and fix the DSP functions in SmartSDR. I,personally, would rather have that than having to use 3rd party applications that need an internet connection or add on hardware like the Timewave 599zx DSP outboard filter that I used for the excellent automatic Notch Filter and it's noise reduction that doesn't effect the audio. But, again, that is, in my opinion, just another band-aid for the problem instead of a cure. YMMV

James

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Nice setup. The RM Noise website has been showing a European server for a while now as being in service on the Network Status page. Maybe you can answer a question I have had for a while. Is RM Noise going to become a paid service of some kind in the future? I cannot imagine it remaining a free application that needs internet access for audio processing. Every time I have asked the developer of RM Noise about this he doesn't respond. He does answer questions about software and setup. If you are part of the system I would hope you could share more information on what the end objective for RM Noise actually is. I find it to be a very good audio processing tool. But, it is unknown how long it will remain available or if it will ever become a tool that can be used offline and still preform well.

James

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Thanks for the clarification. I have been doing some reading about Internet exchange points. Interesting technology. I understand about not being able to discuss my questions. Hopefully, one day the developer of RM Noise will offer some details on where he wants to go with his application. As it is, it works well. But, I can see a point where network latency could cause a problem with near real-time audio processing which is essential for Amateur Radio communications. That is why I have asked/suggested to him to make his application a standalone application that doesn't require an internet connection to process the audio. His response was that he had no plans to do that for now. Because of that, I only use RM Noise occasionally and do not depend on it.

James

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Tested the new version for a while today during the 10 meter contest. Works pretty good. Latency was right at 200ms on average. Not bad overall. I did notice the volume control has been changed. Previously, if it's set all the way to the left, ( volume all the way down) it doesn't turn volume all the way down. Now, with the slider in the middle of the control, volume is so low it cannot be heard. Further to the left does nothing. Increasing the volume to the right does increase the volume. But, not all the way up. If I try to compensate by Increasing the level in DAX ( my audio source for SmartSDR) the graph complains about the drive level being too high.

James

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