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8600 Fan noise

Received yesterday 8600 and installed it today.

Still going through some AG/TGXL/PGXL troubleshooting and setup but would like to bring up the FAN noise issue.

It will be impossible for me to use 8600 almost 24/7 (like I used 6600) as Fan noise is loud, unpleasant and not suite to be on the desk (in my opinion of coarse).

I work from home, listening music during projects or FT8 and I do not see how I can manage it now with 8600.

I understand 8600 may need more cooling, but can Flex share FAN SPECification and advice for alternative? I can look for replacement myself if I know the spec's.

I do not want to return 8600 but need to find a solution. If I cannot find a solution quickly, I will return it.

Thanks,

Sergey, KN7K

Comments

  • Richard
    Richard Member ✭✭

    Sergey, I have the 8600, moved up from the 6700 and have the 6600M as my 2nd station, and the only time I hear the 8600 Fan is when I first turn the unit on as it is powering up. If you are hearing the fan "all the time" I would believe something is wrong. Definitely, not a normal operation from my experiences. suggest you generate a Flex Help Ticket to get the right Technical Expertise.

    Richard - N4RWG

  • Mike-VA3MW
    Mike-VA3MW Administrator, FlexRadio Employee, Community Manager, Super Elmer, Moderator admin
    edited January 13

    When I add one local to me, I never noticed it. However, I guess it depends on how noisy or quiet your shack is.

    As I test, I grabbed my iPhone with a sound pressure meter just to see what my shack ambient noise is and it was about 40db with bursts to maybe 50 db if I was typing. This is with 2 very big PCs running, a FLEX-6600M and its power supply.

    If I turn on my Honeywell air filter, it gets to a constant 43db.

    (if you don't know me by now, I am a fan of empirical data)

    I also found out that the iPhone was pretty accurate for measuring noise. In a previous life, we had to measure the noise of a drone and we bought a $10,000 sound device and learned that the iPhone was really darn close (but not good enough for the customer we were dealing with).

    Sergey, if you can grab some measurements and open a support ticket, that would help to make sure it gets tracked and we can then understand the root cause. It could be a bad fan or it could be normal.

  • johnn1jm
    johnn1jm Member ✭✭

    Mike, curious what app that is.

  • Phil_EBV
    Phil_EBV Member
    HI All, I am also experiencing an unbearable hiss that I have tried to attenuate with a trick....
    I am just printing a one-month mini-review of my 8k6 rig, I will publish it on my web pages soon
    www.qsl.net/ic8pof/iu0ebv not yet online.
    The question is : would I go back to my Yaesu FT1000mkV_Field_modified RX in a
    super_silent shack or ....
    73
    Phil_IU0EBV

    ps: a second 8k6 with the same hiss stays at the home of a friend of mine, I am waiting for his report too


    > @"Sergey KN7K" said:
    > Received yesterday 8600 and installed it today.
    >........cut for oil saving ....
    If I cannot find a solution quickly, I will return it.
    > Thanks,
    > Sergey, KN7K
  • Mike-VA3MW
    Mike-VA3MW Administrator, FlexRadio Employee, Community Manager, Super Elmer, Moderator admin
    edited January 13

    @Phil_EBV Before you publish your review, please give FlexRadio the chance to resolve the issue. It would also be good if you describe more of what you are doing.

    I have also opened a support ticket for this.

    • Frequency?
    • Headphones?
    • PC Audio or Radio Audio?
    • RX EQ settings?
    • Mode?
    • AGC-T settings?

    A bit more detail would be greatly appreciated.

  • Mike VE3CKO
    Mike VE3CKO Member ✭✭✭

    I honestly don't know what all the fuss is about, I do not have any excessive fan noise from the 8600 at all. I have to put my ear within a foot of the radio to hear the fan. Same with 6700. I do have a hearing issue so I downloaded a decibel meter app on my Samsung phone with these results (average), using the phone mic at the bottom pointing to the direction of the radio :

    • 34db - 1' from front of 8600
    • 27db - 4' from front of 8600
    • 27db - elsewhere in the shack five to 5 to 15' from radio
    • 26 db - outside my shack door

  • Sergey KN7K
    Sergey KN7K Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 13

    Wow -

    "34db - 1' from front of 8600" - I have it at 52db

  • Mike-VA3MW
    Mike-VA3MW Administrator, FlexRadio Employee, Community Manager, Super Elmer, Moderator admin

    thanks guys… I passed this on to engineering.

  • Phil_EBV
    Phil_EBV Member
    HI Sergey and All.
    I have measured with a DBMeter APP on the phone abt 33db in the quiet room, Flex OFF , and about 41-42 db with the Flex ON
    after 10 minutes warming and only in RX; the distance of the phone from the RIG about 50cm.
    I know that these values are low, but always audible even with the RIG in stby and baseband noise at low level.
    The speed of the fans stay at minimum only few seconds then go to what I suppose be the middle run, and goes to
    maximum (suppose so) when running some QSOs at 100W.
    The SPE 1k5 in stby (with 4 fans) is barely audible.
    But I have discovered the GOST in the bottle\chassis : with another APP called SPECTROID which shows the spectrum from
    0 to 10000Hz in realtime, there is a peak at about 280Hz always running as the Flex is ON;
    I have a short video but dont know how to attach it here, I will put on one of my web pages and paste the link here as I do it.
    This continous whistle makes me very nervous. What to do is to be studied.
    The room temperature is abt 19° Celsius.

    73
    Phil IU0EBV
    ex IC8POF





    > @"Sergey KN7K" said:
    > Wow -
    > "34db - 1' from front of 8600" - I have it at 52db
  • Mike-VA3MW
    Mike-VA3MW Administrator, FlexRadio Employee, Community Manager, Super Elmer, Moderator admin

    Phil, please open a support ticket and add the video to the support ticket.

  • Phil_EBV
    Phil_EBV Member
    HI Mike, of course I will do that... and ok that I have plenty of free time now, but I would spend more time being active on the bands than cutting\pasting videos HI as running after a possibly defective fan.
    Anyway I am glad that all the rest works fine, it still lacks some features but it is only software no hardware to solder\tune etc....
    I keep cross_fingers with both hands HI HA HO
    73
    Phil

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