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Glenn Depp
Glenn Depp Member ✭✭
edited June 2020 in New Ideas
Automatic Band Mode changing.  Providing a way to disable this would help digital mode operators out greatly.
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  • Mike-VA3MW
    Mike-VA3MW Administrator, FlexRadio Employee, Community Manager, Super Elmer, Moderator admin
    edited May 2020
    Glenn

    Can you explain a bit more about what is happening?

    Mike

  • Glenn Depp
    Glenn Depp Member ✭✭
    edited May 2020
  • WX7Y
    WX7Y Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2020
  • Mike-VA3MW
    Mike-VA3MW Administrator, FlexRadio Employee, Community Manager, Super Elmer, Moderator admin
    edited May 2020
    So, this is outside the ham bands.  

    I can't test with an ALE device as I don't have one.  What happens if you manually go through all the bands that you are scanning and then set the mode.  This would take advantage of Persistance. 

    (Section 18.7 of the manual)  

    Persistence, always enabled on your Signature Series radio, remembers settings from band to band without your direct action so that when you return to a band, your settings are restored. For example, if you are operating on 20m and set the Slice frequency to 14.185, then go to 10m and set the Slice frequency to 28.1 MHz and then go back to 20m, persistence will return your Slice to 14.185 MHz. 

    Mike

  • Glenn Depp
    Glenn Depp Member ✭✭
    edited May 2020
    Persistence does nothing when controlled by third party software.  The issue continues.  I know I am not the only one as I am others are having same issue, also trying different solutions but none the less the issue continues.  I really feel the ONLY solution is to have the ability for the user to turn off the automatic mode change depending upon the band.  Memories in the flex do nothing either as MARS ALE are not scanning the flex memory channels, nor is there the ability to do that.
  • Mike-VA3MW
    Mike-VA3MW Administrator, FlexRadio Employee, Community Manager, Super Elmer, Moderator admin
    edited May 2020
    Glenn

    I just took my 6600M and set 80 to USB, 40 to USB and 20 to LSB and then I used HRD to change bands.  They maintained their mode (which was the opposite of what is normal).

    What I don't know is what commands is the ALE software sending to the radio?  Do you have a copy of the command string?  You can actually get this from turning on logging in SmartSDR CAT.

    Mike
  • Glenn Depp
    Glenn Depp Member ✭✭
    edited May 2020
  • Glenn Depp
    Glenn Depp Member ✭✭
    edited May 2020
    I removed the SB0 command from every MMI command and the ? went away.  Still have the issue of one frequency switching to LSB, It is very close to an Amateur Band.. 
    When I use the MMI Radio to control radio I get constant clicking, When I use the Flex5000 command structure I get Quiet Scanning.  I am going to try the MD09 and MD9 command I see in the log to see if it is allowing quiet scanning
    
  • Glenn Depp
    Glenn Depp Member ✭✭
    edited May 2020
  • Mike-VA3MW
    Mike-VA3MW Administrator, FlexRadio Employee, Community Manager, Super Elmer, Moderator admin
    edited June 2020
    I talked with some of the engineering staff that know this issue a bit better than I do.  (thanks Tim)

    This is a well known PC-ALE issue. 

    PC-ALE needs to send the  CAT mode command along with the frequency command when scanning (changing frequencies).  This has been a problem for years, I have sent this info to the PC-ALE developers and had multiple users do the same.  For them, it would be a simple fix as then there would be no assumption that the radio is in the correct mode.  ALE does not send a MODE command.

    Some users have scripted a way around this, but I do not have the details on how to do that in PC-ALE

    It isn't a defect.  The radio is behaving as designed. 

    It is switching to the proper sideband mode when the frequency is change to below 60m (I forget the exact frequency change point)

    We recommend that you reach out to the ALE developers.  If they need some further technical guidance, I would be happy to provide it.

    Mike

  • Glenn Depp
    Glenn Depp Member ✭✭
    edited May 2020
    I am not sure what I did to get it working earlier, but, Now that I took a break and started over again, I am having similar issues.  LSB for the near amateur radio band frequency and split mode operation for near another lower band.  I am confused all over again.
  • Glenn Depp
    Glenn Depp Member ✭✭
    edited May 2020
  • Mike-VA3MW
    Mike-VA3MW Administrator, FlexRadio Employee, Community Manager, Super Elmer, Moderator admin
    edited May 2020
    That is correct.  We only use Kenwood commands and they are published in our downloads area.

    https://www.flexradio.com/downloads/smartsdr-cat-user-guide-pdf/

  • N2CKH
    N2CKH Member
    edited June 2020
  • John WA7UAR
    John WA7UAR Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 2020
  • N2CKH
    N2CKH Member
    edited May 2020
    I had to code a special exception into the MARS-ALE v3.nn framework in support of a new FLEX6000 radio type selection as FLEX applies the automatic ham band LSB selection logic outside of the HAM bands and does not provide a means of disabling. This will not be done in future ALE tools for MARS. No idea at this how I will handle it in the developing DLL-RADIO or if I will bother. This has not been done in PC-ALE and will not show until the next update some time from now. It really would be best for all concerned as it affects all out-band-use, if FLEX either added a manual means to disable the feature or wrote into the firmware an automatic means when the MARS option is installed.

    Sincerely,

    /s/ Steve, N2CKH
  • John WA7UAR
    John WA7UAR Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 2020

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