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Maestro freezes on transmit

AD6DM Dennis
AD6DM Dennis Member ✭✭
edited June 2020 in Maestro
Totally new to FlexRadio Systems. I just got a 6400 and Maestro. Every time I use the key on the Maestro, the 6400 gets locked in transmit while the Maestro continues for a few seconds, then resets with no audio. This happens every time. Plugging the key into the 6400 allows me to transmit but I hear no sidetone on the Maestro. No idea what is going on. When I hit the manual tune button this occurs as well

The 6400 has no ATU but it is hooked to an LDG AT1000ProII in auto-tune mode so SWR is resolved.

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  • Bill -VA3WTB
    Bill -VA3WTB Member ✭✭✭
    edited February 2020
  • AD6DM Dennis
    AD6DM Dennis Member ✭✭
    edited January 2020
    When using the key directly in the 6400 everything works fine. So I don't think the 6400 is being bothered.
  • WX7Y
    WX7Y Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2020
  • Bill -VA3WTB
    Bill -VA3WTB Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 2020
    Dennis, I know you are new to Flex, Some of us have been doing this a long time with Flex radios. It is RF. There really is nothing else that would cause a lock up. Other than connectivity issues, a drop out.
    Look to make sure you have chocks on both ends of the Lan cables. they are a great RF antenna. The end from the switch or router and the other end that connects to the radio.
  • K0FLY
    K0FLY Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 2020
  • K0FLY
    K0FLY Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 2020
    When you push the Tune button is the CW key plugged into the Maestro when the lockup occurs?  Try the "TUNE" with the key disconnected.
  • Mike Smoot
    Mike Smoot Member ✭✭
    edited January 2020
    Does the problem still occur when transmitting directly into a dummy load?  
  • Mike-VA3MW
    Mike-VA3MW Administrator, FlexRadio Employee, Community Manager, Super Elmer, Moderator admin
    edited January 2020
  • AD6DM Dennis
    AD6DM Dennis Member ✭✭
    edited February 2020
  • AD6DM Dennis
    AD6DM Dennis Member ✭✭
    edited February 2020
  • Mike-VA3MW
    Mike-VA3MW Administrator, FlexRadio Employee, Community Manager, Super Elmer, Moderator admin
    edited February 2020
    I have done a bunch of testing with PowerLine and had good success.  

    What I learned is that never plug them into a power bar.  The MOVs tend to **** the IP communication.

    You do have to try different outlets as some work better than others.  

    YMMV.

    Mike

  • AD6DM Dennis
    AD6DM Dennis Member ✭✭
    edited February 2020
  • Mike-VA3MW
    Mike-VA3MW Administrator, FlexRadio Employee, Community Manager, Super Elmer, Moderator admin
    edited February 2020
    I have only tested D-Link and TP-Link.  I seemed to have more success with TP-Link
  • John KB4DU
    John KB4DU Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2020
    Like Michael, I use the TP-Link adapters without issues. In the shack I have the Flex and pc connected to a switch. The switch is connected to the TP-Link adapter. At the other end the TP-Link adapter is connected to the router/Wifi access point. I use Wi-Fi with SDR Ios through the TP-Link adapters without issues, noise or otherwise.
  • AD6DM Dennis
    AD6DM Dennis Member ✭✭
    edited February 2020
    Sounds like a good idea to put a switch in the mix at the terminating end. Might add some filtering (?). In either case, I'll retry, with a TP-Link that is not Power-over-Ethernet and see if it handles that ok. Will save me a lot of time wiring through the attic.
  • Steve K9ZW
    Steve K9ZW Member ✭✭✭
    edited February 2020
    @Dennis - some users have had success with Mesh installations.  I am using the Amplifi setup, including a fiber backhaul between the main house and my ham shack/workshop, with good results.

    I have used the TP-Link network extenders (I actually has this running at my vacation QTH to a router in that ham shack) and with much less success the Netgear version. 

    I struggled with ethernet-over-powerwires gear I tried, mostly because that trial was in a 100+ year old home where the electrical feeds were overlapping and came from different sides of the 220v feeder when broken down to 110v.  

    You can search the community on Mesh Systems (use Google but restrict it to just this site) and I think I wrote up the Amplifi products at my blog.

    73

    Steve
    K9ZW

    Blog:  http://k9zw.wordpress.com  
  • AD6DM Dennis
    AD6DM Dennis Member ✭✭
    edited February 2020
  • Steve K9ZW
    Steve K9ZW Member ✭✭✭
    edited February 2020
    I think you’re mixing up names - Powerline is not PoE. See https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/power-over-ethernet-poe-vs-power-line-networking.3202598/ for a better write up of the differences than I’d do. Glad you have a Powerline solution that works for you. 73 Steve K9ZW Blog: http://k9zw.wordpress.com
  • John KB4DU
    John KB4DU Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2020
    It was Michaels suggestion that helped me avoid pulling more ethernet cables through the attic. Good that you're in business.
  • AD6DM Dennis
    AD6DM Dennis Member ✭✭
    edited February 2020
    No I get that. My first Powerline HAS PoE (i.e. it is Powerline by TRENDnet that supplies PoE as well). The older TP-Link I have doesn't.
  • Exact same thing happened to me tonight. If MultiFlex works great but SmartLink locks in Tx, could it still be RF getting into the LAN cable? Chokes abound on the LAN / DSL lines too.
  • jlag
    jlag Member ✭✭

    I am having perhaps a similar issue w/6600 and Maestro A using SSB Phone. V 3.7.4 (Issue observed in V 3.3.33 as well)

    I have been using SmartSDR Windows and Mac over Wifi for years with no issue. At times with 600-800W.

    Now working with Maestro, with as low as 10 W, after transmitting, when I un-key the PTT the Maestro LEDs flicker and turn off with these messages on the screen:

    The 6600 is still alive and functioning as I can connect to it with SmartSDR while this screen is displayed in the Maestro. From the times I was able to test, the TX audio makes it out, it just gets unhappy when the PTT is released. Seems to happen more often on transmits longer than ~10 seconds but I cannot verify that 100%.

    I have toroids all over the radio room and a 1:1 isolator about 7 feet before the feed line enters the building.

    Maybe someone has seen similar.

  • WX7Y
    WX7Y Member ✭✭✭✭

    Sure sounds like RF getting into the Router or Ethernet cables

    Does it do it when operating into a Dummy Load?

    What power level are you running when it happens? TRY LOWER POWER

    Are you running Wireless or Wired on the Maestro? TRY THE OTHER

    Have you tried a NEW higher quality Ethernet Cable if your running Wired? MAKE SURE Ethernet cables ARE NOT running parallel to a RF Cable

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