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Looking for a router that is somewhat impervious to R.F. interference

DV
DV Member ✭✭
edited June 2020 in SmartSDR for Windows

Answers

  • David Decoons, wo2x
    David Decoons, wo2x Member, Super Elmer Moderator
    edited June 2020
  • George KF2T
    George KF2T Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 2019
  • Mike-VA3MW
    Mike-VA3MW Administrator, FlexRadio Employee, Community Manager, Super Elmer, Moderator admin
    edited June 2019
  • Jeff_W4DD
    Jeff_W4DD Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
    How is the router connected to the internet? DSL modem, cable modem, or something else? Most routers are powered by wall warts so typically have no good ground connection and no good way to get rid of RF. Since cable modems usually have a reasonably good ground via the RG6 cable, I ran a 3ft shielded ethernet cable berween the cable modem and the router. On my router (an Asus), the neg DC, ant connectors, and rj45 shells are all tied together, but were floating, no ground connection. Don't use shielded cables off of the common sites. The drain wires are not soldered to the rj45 shell and are intermittent. I used amphenol csbles from Mouser.
  • Fred Friedl
    Fred Friedl Member
    edited June 2019
  • DV
    DV Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
  • Gary - WB5ULK
    Gary - WB5ULK Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
  • EA4GLI
    EA4GLI Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 2019
    In my experience it tends to be the power supply of the router and not the router itself. Try with a different psu for the router, or if you are lucky and it runs on 12v use your station power supply.
  • Craig_KØCF
    Craig_KØCF Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 2019
  • Michael N3LI
    Michael N3LI Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
    I had two netgear routers that would reboot when I used 40 meters. I ended up using good ethernet cables, 2 inch toroids, on the cables,  and bought an Arris Router that had a metal case.
  • Lasse Moell
    Lasse Moell Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
  • Lasse Moell
    Lasse Moell Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
  • Larry Benoit
    Larry Benoit Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
  • DV
    DV Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
  • DV
    DV Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
    Lasse, good suggestions.  Two of my leads connecting to the router have the wire run through the bead a couple of times, but the beads I had for the other lines will only accept a straight through run. I have looked at the FairRite you suggested, the problem is it's size and bulk and the shelf on which the router and switch is located will not handle them conveniently.  But, I have placed that core in my notes for future use.  Thanks.
  • DV
    DV Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
    I have a small 8 port switch that the router feeds.  It has a metal cabinet.  Tried grounding the chassis once and it made thing much worse, probably formed a ground loop somewhere in the system.  The switch remains un-grounded.
  • DV
    DV Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
  • DV
    DV Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
    Salvador, my Netgear router uses a 2.5 amp 12 VDC supply.  I'll look into a amateur power supply that is not a switching supply or if it is it has more filtering. Can't use station 12 VDC as its too far away.
  • DV
    DV Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
    Thanks Gary, all good suggestions. There are other suggestions to buy beads with 3/4" and loop the wire through as many times as possible.
  • Larry Benoit
    Larry Benoit Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
  • Gary - WB5ULK
    Gary - WB5ULK Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
    In the middle-era of ethernet switches, they were notoriously noisy - yes, even Cisco, and so the vendors typically shipped new switches (we were buying 48 port switches at the time) with a bag of clamp-on ferrites which would fit the larger ethernet cables (still used today). We did not experience the RF issues which others had, so I had drawers-full of these. One particular Cox Cable Modem I had was awful w/r/t noise susceptibility, and I started putting them the network cable stacked one after the other until the noise stopped being an issue. The price was right and it worked. The rest of the advice which you are getting is very good as well. What works "for you" is the best solution!
  • wa4wab
    wa4wab Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
  • Lasse Moell
    Lasse Moell Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
    Doug, it's not just the size but material that is important. The type I suggested do work with RG-213, but you can find smaller sized ferrite of -31 material that will work with CAT cables.  I do recommend you use ferrites not only on your TCP/IP cables but on DC-cables to your router, on mains and coax cables. Just make sure you do use the correct ferrit material -31 (or 43 may work).

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