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Cheap router with great performance (and an "A" on bufferbloat)

Doug Hall
Doug Hall Member ✭✭
edited December 2019 in FLEX-6000 Signature Series
Early last year I decided to replace my old router. For years I had been using PC-based solutions like IPCop and pfSense, but I wanted something more reliable and less power hungry than a PC. After a lot of reading I settled on the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X. This is a small box (about 5" x 3" x 0.75") that runs a customized version of Linux and provides all the features you'll probably ever need in a home router. It has 5 gigabit ports, and supports stuff like port forwarding, VLANs, QoS, multiple WAN connections, load balancing, auto-failover, dynamic DNS, and a whole host of other features. Under the hood it runs Debian Linux and while it can be upgraded and maintained via web browser it also allows command line configuration for those who know their way around Linux.

This thing just sits there routing packets. I never have to reboot it or do anything to it. It seems to do everything my PC-based router did and best of all, it can be had for $50.

Below is my speed test result from dslreports. By turning on the Smart Queue feature in the QoS options I got an A in bufferbloat, for whatever that is worth.

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The EdgeRouter is slightly more complicated to configure than the run of the mill consumer grade router, but I found it simpler than pfSense. It helps to understand routers and switches to some extent, but these days that's a good thing to know anyway.

73,
Doug K4DSP

P.S. The VPN feature on this router works well, and allows me to control my rotator, antenna switch, and amplifier remotely. Unfortunately it does not obviate the need for SmartLink as it does not relay broadcast packets which are needed by SmartSDR to discover the radio. That's a sore subject with me - Flex calls it a feature, I call it a bug. But I do like the router.


Comments

  • Larry Loen  WO7R
    Larry Loen WO7R Member ✭✭
    edited January 2019
  • K1SZO
    K1SZO Member ✭✭
    edited January 2019
  • Mike-VA3MW
    Mike-VA3MW Administrator, FlexRadio Employee, Community Manager, Super Elmer, Moderator admin
    edited April 2019
    VPN's are designed to 'normally' not be on the same subnet at the main network.  Like K1SZO mentioned, Softether VPN works very well and you can run the server on any PC.  I have it on a RPI with a few other network toys like PiHole and broadcast packets on the same subnet are also sent out on the VPN network, which is exactly what we want for a Flex radio.

    By architecture, Vita49 packets are not routable (I'm sure Tim is going to jump in here) and this pdf may help explain the Vita49 radio protocol.  https://www.pentek.com/CATFiles/VITA49RadioTransport.pdf.  John VE6EY also puts his spin on it here:  http://play.fallows.ca/wp/radio/software-defined-radio/about-vita-49-discovering-radio-transport-pro...

    That all being said, you can use SmartLink to connect to your radio outside the VPN.  I used to use a VPN for my remote HF station, but now it is all SmartLink and I don't have to worry about keeping the VPN tunnel running.  That helped to eliminate another single point of failure.

    Mike 



     
  • Ted  VE3TRQ
    Ted VE3TRQ Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 2019
    With all this talk of link quality and bufferbloat, I figured I'd run the dslreports speed test on my network, accessed with WiFi. I have a cable modem connection ostensibly with 20/5 down/up, running with an old Buffalo router (with its WiFi turned off,) and running a reasonably recent version of Tomato (based on busybox embedded Linux / dd-wrt). I ran the test from Safari on an iPad. First I tried it using my trusty 2.4 G WiFi connection: Net quality "D", bufferbloat "C" - awfull! Then I switched to my 5 G WiFi connection: Net quality "A", bufferbloat "A+". Just goes to show you should take care not to have the shared use of the 2.4 G spectrum destroy your network :-) 5 G is a MUCH better choice if you care about data delivery without delay / interruption. The WiFi frequencies are truly multiplexed, with collisions and back-off, and 2.4 G just plain sucks unless you are in a very quiet neighborhood and you don't have other devices in use yourself (e.g. tablets, cellphones, smart TVs, game consoles, smart speakers, smart thermostats, etc)., all competing for the spectrum you want. 5 G just has so much more room, and the signals from your neighbors just do not carry as far. Do a wireless survey to pick the best channel. The above testing is why I switched to always using 5 G for Flex remote communication when forced to, or wanting to, use WiFi. Slightly off the topic of this thread, but germain, I think. Ted VE3TRQ
  • Tim N9PUZ
    Tim N9PUZ Member ✭✭
    edited September 2019
  • Doug Hall
    Doug Hall Member ✭✭
    edited January 2019
    Tim,
    If your router has support for QoS or Traffic Shaping (and many do) you may be able to use that feature to improve the latency caused by buffer bloat.
    73,
    Doug K4DSP

  • Tim N9PUZ
    Tim N9PUZ Member ✭✭
    edited January 2019
    I experimented and it helped some. My score went from "F" to "D"!

    Thanks for the tip Doug.

    Tim N9PUZ
  • N8SDR
    N8SDR Member ✭✭
    edited January 2019
  • Larry Benoit
    Larry Benoit Member ✭✭
    edited January 2019
    Tim,

    You may get better results manually setting the QoS download and upload speeds to 85-90% of the average speed reported by DSLReports.com, speedof.me or speedtest.net

    73,
    Larry KB1VFU



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