Power Pole connectors

Tom W3FRG

Glad that you have had no issues with PP Connectors, but we're talking about Mfr Supplied cables with PP Connectors installed, not home made where the user can control the assembly procedure and know that they are assembled (hopefully) correct.

Tom W3FRG

WQ2H - Jim Poulette

Power cables, regardless of manufacturer or connector style, are something I always inspect before energizing. Out of the box these cables appear correctly fabricated to me. I know QA is a moving target for some - but they look fine here.
Maybe it's overkill, but I have to go back to service loops and moreover common wiring & cabling sense. Stressing the cables (banjo string syndrome) even intermittently will stress both the wire-to-contact connections and the plug-to-socket contacts, and ultimately will lead to a failure of some kind.

This thread peaked my interest, so I measured the insertion force. Mine measured ~15N. My radio is fairly new, so that may explain why it's slightly above the spec of 13N (no tolerance given). At an extra cost one could move to the "high force" PP version raising that to 22N. Whether or not that would mitigate the banjo string syndrome is doubtful.
73 Jim, WQ2H

Mark WS7M

N8SDR

I'll agree, they simply are a lousy connector and don't rally provide a good positive pressure to make a good solid connection- most of the time, in fact it's not uncommon that these connections get oxidized and require cleaning to get full power/amperage connections, when I see  power output drop in TX equipment where PP are used there my first check, usually they need a good cleaning or redone, frankly there a poor design and the folks who thought they would make a great power connector haven't a clue.

Ken - NM9P

I never thought of that, Mike. But I do support all of my cables with hangers on the underside of my desktop overhang. Nothing hangs by more than 18 inches without support. I have had no problems with power poles working loose.

Ken - NM9P

If you use #10 wire, you may have a difficult time using the 30 amp connectors. I picked up some 45 amp connectors that will mate with 30’s, but accommodate the larger wire.

Mark WS7M

Yes... Well shoot it is sad the radio has them but I guess , at least in my installation, the radio should rarely move.

@NM9P - I've tried all kinds of wire.  I was using 12ga which is smaller than I wanted and I used the 45A connectors.  The cables tone out fine but when plugged in they don't always make great contact.  I had to bend the prongs up some to get reasonable contract.

KY6LA_Howard

Tom W3FRG

Howard, you have missed the point of the original posting.
These were not home made cables with PP connectors, these were supplied with the Flex radio that failed to stay in place.

Tom W3FRG

Bill -VA3WTB

It is interesting to see some people having trouble with the Power pole plugs. My radio is a pre owned certified 6500. I had some connection problems when I first got it. After reading about my problem I simply bent the metal tab inside back up into place. It now makes a very firm connection and it takes lots of pulling to pull it out of the Flex now,  I am sure that some are having problems with theirs and I don't know what or why that is,,But in my case they are a really good connection, and that is after years of use.

WX7Y

Bill -VA3WTB

Bill / VA3QB

A number of things to make sure ,  you are using the correct size of power pole pin for the wire size/amps you are putting through it,  the correct Crimper,  and the correct way to put it in the crimping tool.  I have used power pole connectors since the early 90's with no problems. Any person I know that had a problem was doing one of the three things above.   I have attached two pictures.  This is the actual Anderson Power Pole crimpers.  The other ones do not work as well, if at all !   The second picture shows proper way to insert pin into crimper. If the crease is not to the top the connection will fail. Also important not to inset pin to far into crimper. 

Robert Lonn

Bill -VA3WTB

Not to highjack the post,,have to make a new post?

Mark WS7M

That's the crimper I have.  It is one of about 8 crimpers I own.  I purchased my crimper and power poles at West Mountain Radio.  Whether they are selling Anderson or Chinese I have no idea.

I've made enough cables using various crimpers to know good from bad and to understand wire size versus connector size.

My issues with power poles have nothing really to do with the connector and crimping.  It is the actual connection between connector A and connector B.

Someone in this thread makes a key point:  They bend the connectors up to ensure they make good contact.

I think this would work for mine as well but I've never used a connector before that required me to manually bend the terminals.  It seems that indicates a poor design.

Bill -VA3WTB

Mark these tabs are spring loaded to speak. After a while they need to be bent back in place, then they connect tight.

Neal Pollack, N6YFM

Re:  "AVOID LOW QUALITY (non USA) PARTS SOLD AT HRO"

OK, I'll bite...   How can I shop and tell which "power poles are REAL
Anderson Brand vs. the cheap china copies?   I will agree that most products
I have purchased from China in the past, no matter if connectors, tools, electronics,
are measured rather cheaply/sloppy with inaccurate tolerances.  All it takes is
to be off by a few thousandths of an inch, and the connection between pole A and B will not make very good contact.  My experience exactly, more than once.

So, since Anderson does not stamp their name in the connector, how do I tell
I am getting REAL product, and where do I find real product?

Cheers,

Neal

Neal Pollack, N6YFM

Re:   "I think it now time to change the subject to "How To Make A proper PL-259 Connector!!! :-)"

God, NO!  :-)   Pah-Leeeze don't   :-)
If you must, re-start that thread over on the open sewer pit called Eham.net

Bill -VA3WTB

Lol,,if you go to far off the original topic, Flex will close the post...

Robert Lonn

Just kidding folks!!!

Tom N5MOA

KY6LA_Howard