Can FRS let us know if June is spelled J U L Y?

Steve K9ZW

Rather than the huge number of "are we there yet" posts that happen when we get close to a new release of SmartSDR, could FRS lift the curtains enough for the Great Oz to tell us if June needs to become July for version 2.0?

The benefit for me is I know the hams who I help with their Flex-6000s want to upgrade, and I'm hoping to schedule time to help them appropriately.

The benefit for FRS is if the date needs to be extended we get the grumble done with quickly, and without several posts a day asking "is it now?"

Thanks and 73

Steve K9ZW

KD7CAO

It better not become another month. Their own printed literature says it is "Available now!"

Ken Hansen

It's the 23rd, there's still about 1/4th of the month left - have a little faith!

WV9L

Maybe its June of 2018. I was told "by end of first quarter" when i bought my rig in late Nov 2016. Then it became June. But, one thing is for sure, we wont have it for Field Day.

Mickey N4MB

Having made a good living managing and performing technology projects, generally the marketing folks are more optimistic than the technical folks... Sometimes, in the pre-ship phase, near the release of product, someone finds one of those "Oh my God, we can't release with THAT" bugs that might take weeks to fix. So the product release might push.

BUT, today is only the 23rd. There's a week left in the month. Kudos to those in the QA process who have the courage to stop issues going into production "no matter what!" 

73,

Mickey N4MB

Mike VE3CKO

To entertain myself awaiting the release and to keep from biting my tongue, I'm counting how many new threads will be created asking the same basic question. "Are we there yet?" and how many times Tim is going so basically say "rather than meeting a date deadline, it will be released when it is ready". I think we are safe to say it will be much sooner, than much later.

Jim Gilliam

By my accounts of other threads, it is much later.

Jim, K6QE

KF4HR

Suffice it to say, if v2.0 is not available yet, there's still has bugs and/or new features being worked out.  Let it be.

WA2SQQ

In the past every major update has been released with very few if any major problems. This was the result of waiting to release it until it was right. I'm sure the announcement will come as soon as it's ready for primetime. I'd rather wait than have a buggy release

Steve W6SDM

When my kids were little, like most parents, I always heard, "Are we there yet?" multiple times.  I would always answer no, we have several hours left before we're even close.  That provided a longer duration the between "Are we there yet?" questions.  

When we did arrive it was a pleasant surprise.

Mack

Steve, Let me assure you that the developers and Alpha team want it released as soon as it is bug free. The Alpha team is receiving frequent code to test and we are close to public ready code barring no new major bugs. Everyone wants you to have a fantastic experience on your first attempt. Quality is more important than an arbitrary date. You'll love the new code when it's released and it will be be like having a new radio. Respectfully, Mack W4AX

Dave Dave

With Flex always ask what year!

Jd Dupuy

I dug up a pair of Red shoes today in Kansas. Plan to clean them up and see if I can squeeze into them. I figure 2 taps should do the trick to get 2.0!

Ross - K9COX

No forward looking comments are allowed nor will be tolerated

Mike va3mw

I have to agree with Mack.  We (the Alpha team) are pounding away on it.  Since I do  a lot of remote operate (almost 100%), it does work.  Those at Dayton saw it when then used any of our stations on the Maestros, mine included.  It was just  like being there.  

You'll love it when it comes out.  Then, the bandwidth tuning will start for everyone.  

Mike va3mw

Larry - WA7LZO

I am perfectly fine with a release date anytime this summer. I'd much rather have it bulletproof, than rushing it out the door just to meet some artificial date. Let's be patient, ppl!

Br,
Larry
WA7LZO

Ria

I highly doubt that.

Steve W6SDM

Mark,

My comment may not have sounded like it, but I am solidly on the side of waiting until it's ready.  I don't think I've even discovered all to the tricks on the current release, so there's no need to rush the next one, at least from my perspective.

I have suffered through enough premature market-driven releases of Windows to even consider having that kind of experience with the Flex software.

NM1W

1.* has been plagued by dax rcv corruption issues as well as xmit corruption.
1.10.16 has had a lengthy thread about its crashes..

Ria

Without getting too specific, 2.0/SmartLink is at a very advanced stage of development, and isn't just a concept or early prototype. It's also up to flex to decide their release dates but I don't see it being very long from now. I have also been testing smartlink on windows, maestro and iOS and the dev team has been hard at work polishing up the final product. The alpha team has also provided very valuable feedback, both directly and letting the dev team directly observe how our radios function. So they have a very good idea of how to get things done.

Trust me when I say it will be worth the wait.

Paul M

My wife always told the kids "In about and hour."  

G8ZPX

but when those children are now in their 50s 60s they expect to be treated like ADULTS!

K1UO Larry

I would think that with 2.0/SmartLink the ability to connect directly to your radio from Houston helps eliminate the verbal miscommunication that sometimes happens when trying to describe the problem.  I suspect this capability also helps speed up the troubleshooting process and resolution.  Thank you Ria, and all the Alpha Team, for your testing efforts.

Ken - NM9P

The Magic Ruby Slippers was in the movie version. In the original story in the books, they were Silver. If you trust Hollywood, the real magic doesn't work. (;>p)

Jd Dupuy

You're right, I clicked my heels until it hurt. No 2.0! Now my feet hurt.

Ken - NM9P

Keep your slippers on. It is being heavily tested by the Alpha testers to make sure it will be ready to release. The last thing they want to do is release it with hidden bugs and **** traps!

Ria

Well, it's not that. We still do have to tell them what the issue was and describe steps to get there. However in developing smartlink they had to look at how our radios connected to the internet to get real world data. In the lab you have controlled conditions. In the real world not so much. You have firewalls and such in the real world. So from that standpoint they can see what is needed for a seamless experience.

Plus for any radio, not just alpha testers, I believe they can request that you remotely let them in to field check things.

Thanks for the kind words.

Ria

Mike va3mw

As Ria says, there is so much more than just writing the application.  While the SmartLink application works well, there is so many things different in how the connections   

Here is how it works.  The developer writes the application and from what he can tell, it is done and works.  Then we get the real world involved with all the 'non-standard' internet stuff (there is no standard) and we find ways that it doesn't work.  It is almost like every internet connection is unique.  High speed networks, low speed, fibre, DSL latency, dropped connections, partially dropped connections.  All these need code to handle error management.  

If you are writing code for everyone to use, almost 25-35% of the lines of code are related to error management.   If you have ever written even the most basic application, you know what I mean if you are giving it to someone else to use.  They will break it on the first attempt.  

I have worked for years in the software support industry and have lived this first hand.  If your code doesn't work, the phone will ring off the hook and all you will have is **** off users and lost customers.

They are close.  

73 all, de va3mw

Pat N6PAT

Stop badgering the developers! Your constant nagging will produce nothing but more frustration.

Ken Hansen

i was wondering, since the 2.0 upgrade is being sold at a not insignificant cost, and it supports a very popular function (remote wan control), and, as noted above involves the "non-standard internet stuff" will a potential SmartSDR 2.0 upgrade customer be able to install the SmartSDR software and confirm their internet connection supports SmartLink functionality before they purchase the upgrade?

I understand the software isn't licensed, the radio is - but what I am asking is if a potential upgrade customer will have the ability to confirm that the software is compatible with their "non-standard internet stuff" before purchase?

Thanks.

Ria

Tim has said that they don't intend to offer a trial period, and 2.0 is more than just WAN. So I'm guessing, no.

Some connections that may not work at all or may not work well:
Double NAT (carrier grade NAT)
Routers where UPnP is disabled/blocked
ISPs that extensively filter inbound connections
High latency connections
Very low bandwidth connections (basic slow DSL, for example)
Some mobile wireless connections

Other than that it seems to work with most home ISPs. 

Ria