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V2.7.2 is running stable here, but is now +1 year old software.
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V2.7.2 is running stable here, but is now +1 year old software.
TIA! 73
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Rick
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package everyday! hi hi They have supported quite a few other upstart SDR hardware companies with their ground breaking software though. But a new era has begun with
the SmartSDR package.
They are already tied up with the SSDR, how do you think they would have the time or people to do this?
PSDR is complete and very stable. What sort of things would you change in PSDR?
As It is open source you don't need flex to do this,,any one can make changes as they wish.
They did this for the Anon, changed PSDR to work with that radio as they needed.
Hence, I do not trust Flex and not willing to pay the large sums for a 6000 when they will likely dump 6000-SmartSDR support when move on to 7000's.
I agree, as what happens to PowerSDR users today could be the future of SSDR. FRS needs to play this very carefully for that reason alone.
It makes absolutely no business sense whatsoever to continue to develop PowerSDR. PowerSDR is mostly open source and is used by the competition. Any development dollars poured into PowerSDR detracts from the limited money available to produce better and better versions of their primary product SSDR and only helps the competition. Further the old Flex 1st Generation hardware platform is rather limited in possibilities..
PowerSDR is an end of Life Product... just like Windows XP is an end of life product. As much as people would love to see new developments for XP.. MS who is substantially wealthier than Flex does not spend $$ on XP anymore.
By contrast, SSDR which is harbinger of the 3rd Generation SDR Platform is only scratching the potential of the existing hardware and has all sorts of amazing future possibilities...
The silly part of this discussion is that no one complains that Yaesu, Icom, Kenwood do not bring out new releases with new features for their existing radios... With them you are stuck with the old limitiations forever...
Yet somehow people expect Flex to work for free.. Last time I looked the power company still wants to get paid...
I am willing to bet that if there were a Paid Subscription (illegal in Open Source) for PowerSDR upgrades that there would not be sufficient economic demand to underwrite the costs of even one programmer... (figure a minimum of $100K per year in Texas or $150K per year in CA) let alone the true costs of continued development of PowerSDR.
I missed the line
"....PowerSDR and will continue to be supported in the software, receiving feature enhancements and bug fixes."
Still think there is not a good business case for investing any money into PowerSDR, but I suppose a few crumbs will go a long way to keeping the people happy.
Just don't want to see them divert their very limited resources to a non revenue producing product line...unless they can find a way to get the PowerSDR users to PAY for them. Hams being cheap and already used to getting free updates.. that is not going to happen....
"The silly part of this discussion is that no one complains that Yaesu, Icom, Kenwood do not bring out new releases with new features for their existing radios... With them you are stuck with the old limitiations forever..."
The big three radios had known limitations and they did not sell their radios on the premise of future radio improvements via software programs.
Flex distinguished itself as THEE NEW RADIO revolution with SDR touting the ever improvements of their radios via program revisions" as a SALES POINT. Most of us bought into the legacy Flex's due to this SALES POINT.
WinXP has been out for how many years and how many years have they told all of the pending "stop support"? Did we get the same time period and notification time frame of dropping the Legacies, NO. So do not try to equate the two, again apples and this time prunes.
We see you love your Flex(s), but stop attempting to discredit the arguments with your obvious bias. Thank you.
What we need to see is a Flex commitment date for the next PwrSDR revision! With this date a list of items that will be improved/added/changed.
Another reason beyond what I already have stated, I do not trust Flex NOT to dump 6000 support when they jump to 7000's, is this VERY EXPENSIVE 6000 line now requires and added annual fee for SSDR bug fixes. Now find an annual gouge comparison to Icom, Kwood, Yaesu, Alinco, TT?
That is why FRS needs to be very careful what they do after their (I assume) official statement made Nov 2014 regarding support for PowerSDR. If the owners of the 6000 series get spooked, it could cause irreparable damage to FRS' good standing.
As I read hear your concerns have been addressed.
PowerSDR is a feature rich and very stable SDR software package, providing a comprehensive operating experience for users of the FLEX Series SDRs. As such, at this point in its 10 year plus development life cycle, the frequency of releases will be less than they have been in the past.
We are firmly committed to addressing to the best of our ability any fatal software defects that prevents PowerSDR from operating in supported Windows environments for the foreseeable future. New PowerSDR software to address other non-fatal issues may be released at our discretion based on criticality and the number of users affected. At this time there are no such issues that rise to this level, therefore there is not a time table nor have we set expectations for when a new PowerSDR release may occur.
PowerSDR and the FLEX Series of SDRs are not obsolete or out of date by any means. Presently it does and will provide years of operating enjoyment, as the FLEX Series of SDRs are still some of the best performing ham radios available and at their current and previous prices, represent an exceptional value for any ham radio operator.
As we have stated publicly, the architecture of PowerSDR and the FLEX Series of SDRs is too limiting as a continued development platform for the type of innovative features we envision for software defined radios. This is why we developed the SmartSDR ecosystem for the Signature Series SDRs and have focused our current development resources to the next generation of SDR technology. But this does not mean that there may never be any future new features for PowerSDR.
PowerSDR is an open source application. Consequently, this provides unfettered opportunities for experimenters of the FLEX Series SDRs to add incremental features, bug fixes and additional capabilities they feel are useful to the PowerSDR community. Based on the current stage of the PowerSDR life cycle, expending energy to establish a grassroots effort to encourage and support the software development of a PowerSDR variant by others would be a worthwhile endeavor. We may even incorporate some of those changes provided by the open source development community and integrate them into the mainstream PowerSDR software depending on their global value.
And when will PwrSDR manual (2010) reflect 'all' of the PwrSDR new & improved fetchers?
"there is not a time table nor have we set expectations for when a new PowerSDR release may occur."
I don't think Date is part of the Flexradio lexicon anymore, and thats a good thing. Our guess == your guess.
Jay - NO5J
Nice to see Flex has such an energetic drum ****, in Howard.
They have already committed to, and provided updates to PowerSDR at no extra charge. A little late to start charging now. Updates happen when they happen, Anyone that wants to create PaySDR is free to write their own version from scratch. Good luck competing with the other free Open Source alternatives. Amazing we can even complain about, free. Tim stated the reality, PowerSDR works the way it's intended to at the moment. You have all you've paid for. Source code is available, and free.
Does possessing a fossil entitle us to a free dinosaur. Dinosaurs are free, make as many as you want. ;0)
When bugs have a fix, they get fixed, not before, it requires a fix first. To get someone busy on fixing bugs, bugs have to be reported. there isnt a fix for PowerSDR NR yet. When there is, it will benefit more than just Flexradio owners. NR can be made to work better by adjusting AGC-T and tweaking the NR settings. NB works as is. Report your bugs, get them fixed.
It's unreasonable to expect Flex to put programming resources and capital into the legacy series other than to support it with maintenance.
One of my cars is a 2005 BMW. It has 200,000 miles on it and it still runs great and looks great. The first 100,000 miles, I took it in to the dealer, dropped it off, picked up a loaner, and they did whatever was necessary without charging me a penny. Today, I still go to the dealer but I get a bill for the oil change and whatever else they do - and I have to rent a car if I need one. They have always provided great service but if I want the free loaner and other goodies, I need to buy a new BMW. If I want the new voice activated navigation system that comes with the 2015 models, I need to buy a new car (or buy one on the open marked and have it installed myself). I don't see anything wrong with that.
There are many people who will benefit from the Flex legacy radios, including current owners and those getting into SDR for the first time. You can pick up a 3000 for a really decent price and find out if you want to deal with SDR before you make a bigger financial commitment. And for those who buy one as their first SDR, they have access to hardware and software support through Flex. Nothing wrong with that.