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I have been REMOTING from my son's winery in Northern California this Week. When I went to try SmartSDR for iOS v1.0.2 yesterday I could not connect. Trying my various backup connections it is pretty obvious that my internet connection in La Jolla is down as none of my other servers are reachable as well. Fortunately I am still in the USA and will fly back to La Jolla on Friday. So I won't be off the air too long this time.

The DREADED SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE HAS STRUCK.

I have backups and UPS on everything as well as multiple servers etc. BUT my single point of failure is a single Internet connection with a single modem and single router on the critical path. In this case, I am pretty sure it is the one UPS that powers the modem and router that failed. Likely the battery had gone which is an easy fix.

My most obvious solution is to add a second Internet line, modem and router and run a second subnet. Possible but I am time limited before we head back to France next week so I don't think I can get that working before I leave

Anyone have any bright ideas as to how I might eliminate the single point of failure?
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Hi, Howard,

Last year I had a similar problem where my Internet went down while waiting a the airport to go on a two week cruise. Blah!! When I finally got home there was no apparent failure except I could not connect to the Internet. I had to power-off/power-on my modem before the ISP would recognize my router. So, apparently someone was screwing around at the Central office. Since then, I have put my modem on my remotable powerline strip should that happen again. Also, when I went through the power cycle of my modem, my I/P address changed and had to had to adjust my Dyn.com DNS service to accommodate the change.

Jim, K6QE

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Jim,
DynDNS has a free app you can install in any machine in the LAN that will update the IP address in case your router doesn't have that feature.
http://dyn.com/apps/

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I think they call it "Murphy's Law." Whatever may fail, will fail, but only at the most inopportune moment!

73 de Arnie W8DU
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But I am looking for a clever way to circumvent Murphy
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"Hah!" says Murphy. He (or she) is much cleverer than we are. Stil, this is a nice thread to be sharing ways we give ourselves the 'illusion' that we are circumventing Mr. or Ms. Murphy. I like the idea of redundancy but eventually it comes down to how much $$$ are we willing to spend to diminish the rate of Murphy strikes. Building a smarter mousetrap just encourages the development smarter mice. hi hi.
73 de Arnie W8DU
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Howard

Quality time with your son is assured now. Like you I travel the globe for work here is my backup solution for those Expeditions and rare DX

http://www.remotehamradio.com

Then you would have a seperate backup network to utlize.

Ian
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Howard, just yesterday, my "Remote ON: ENGAGED" button somehow reset itself to "Disengaged" leaving me no possible way to turn the rig on remotely, even by remotely power cycling it.  If I had been able to figure that out, I could have called home and had Dee punch the power button to boot up the 6500.

This is also a possible Single point of failure that would render a rig totally unusable without human or electro-mechanical intervention.  

As far as your question - If you want true internet fail-safe diversity, you might wish to obtain a second internet connection from a different provider/means.  i.e. if your normal connection is by Cable Modem, then have a DSL line installed for backup, so that it would require two different companies to lose service at the same time.  

If I were in a communications-critical situation, I would pursue that further.  But it is much too expensive for my small-time operation.  I don't even want to pay for 3Mb upload speed yet!

Ken - NM9P
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I won't have time to add a second ISP until I am back in the USA in October.
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I operate remotely and I have gone through the pains of finding many weak points on the setup. I laugh at those that look down on remote operation... it is not a trivial setup.

I would use UPS on the router only if I am at the location. It could be convenient to have internet access in case of a power outage. Some routers will allow you to have a 4g dongle connected and revert to a 4g connection if the main WAN fails.

I would however, only use a surge protector and not UPS if I am not there. That doesn't cover the eventuality of needing an internet/router reset without having internet access. That is a very tricky one.

I have access to neighbors WiFi as back up. I use Fiber and they use ADSL so we are on different connections and providers. I use these tiny https://www.itead.cc/sonoff-wifi-wireless-switch.html wifi switches that will allow me to restart devices. I have the router connected to 2 WiFi switches in series one on my neighbors WiFi and one with my own WiFi.

My first thought though is that these tiny wifi switches have the option of a Default to ON and also a timer ON-OFF capability. This means that you could setup your internet router switch to shutdown and restart once a week. That means it will reset itself every so often regardless of status. This is just a thought, not thrilled about rebooting the router every week... but if you are going to be gone without anyone with physical access that might be the way to go.

Advanced remote switches/routers have a feature where if they don't respond to a ping request several times it will reboot. Not cheap though. 

Some other things I have setup on my remote operation:

  • All the PCs will power back on in case of a power failure. This is a BIOS setting and not the default one. I also do not Halt on errors.
  • Make sure your Ethernet and wifi adapters do not have energy saving feature on. It will turn them off.
  • I have 3 PCs in the same LAN which I can access remotely. I keep them on but with no monitors and on lowest power consumption setting. Each one is on a different segments of the network. One directly to one of the internet router ports, one on wifi and one on the main gigabit switch that distributes internet in the home.
  • I have 2 systems to log into the devices, Teamviewer (with 2 step verification) and Chrome Remote.
  • I can also SSH into a linux box (a Raspberry Pi).
  • I can access the internet router from the outside.
  • I have cameras looking into radioshack room and server room.
  • I have smoke sensors and water sensors on the floor.
  • I rely heavily on direct wire connections, do not trust WiFi, so I have ON OFF switches that are ethernet connected to the LAN.
  • In some cases, if I am not going to be in the location for a while I will run and ethernet cable on the ground from one location to another instead of relying on WiFi.
I am working on creating my own event handling by reprograming these Sonoff WiFi switches which are basically ESP8266 devices.

This could be a great thread, I am certainly interested in hearing other ideas.
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I also laugh at those who think Remoting is trivial. Try Remoting being chased down a beach on Mt Athos while trying to maintain a connection and then tell me it's trivial.
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Also @Ken, at $5 a piece I have a ton of them.
I can buy 10 for the price of a Wimo or Neo. :) So you start getting creative with them.
With IFTTT and a bit of programming you can actuate them with the Amazon Echo
via voice.

@Howard, tell me about it. It is quite challenging to go completely remote. It is frustrating at times, but ultimately very rewarding.

Another bit, I use a software program called Zentimo xStorage Manager that will allow me to deactivate and reactivate USB devices. Like physically removing them and plugging them back in. Tons of USB devices will hang for no apparent reason (serial to USB) and require an unplug.
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Salvador:
What kind of range do you get on those devices? It looks like the small antenna on the circuit board may only give very limited range. Yes?
Tnx de Arnie W8DU
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I have not tested the range. But antenas on many wifi usb adapters are not bigger so I would imagine that very similar to other household devices. Also, you are not streaming anything, just sending basic on off commands, so even minimal connectivity would be enough.
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Howard

As I have been running a remote base for over 10 years (2006), my modem was my first SPoF.  I called the ISP and they said:  "Your modem is in a state - just reboot it".  Yeah, right.  A 3 hr winter drive away.   

The perfect solution is another ISP (cable or DSL).  However, in my case, I immediately added a Christmas tree timer to power cycle the router/modem every morning at 3am.  It is down for about 2 minutes.  Since then, I've been pretty good.

Lately, my new modem has a network port that disappears.  I proved this and called the cable company.  They said "No one has reported this, so that isn't it".  I said "I am  not surprised as the first thing you tell everyone is to reboot everything and therefor the problem goes away."  The rep said:  "oh"  :)

I used the KISS principle.  

Mike va3mw
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Mike,
 It makes sense to simple.. Here to the first thing the cable company tells you to do is reset all your network stuff. Simple plug the timer into the UPS and let it do the reset every 24 hours at dark 02:30 :) or what ever time works from where you are going to be a remote operator.
      Now to make it fancy have it be a remote programmable timer so as you move around the reset time can be changed..  Embrace the challenge once you fix this it will be something else.  
       Thanks for the suggestion it's with in my limited budget.
Dan -- KC4GO
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Just think if it goes down and you can't get on the air that gives you more time to go to the shoe store with your wife
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Have Flex ship a 6700 UPS overnight to your son's farm, same with a computer and router and throw a wire out the window for the time being.

When you come home next, have the tower and beams installed and you will have a 2nd station for emergency use.  Will work good for the next S. Cal earthquake.   And might be a real low-noise location !

Always fun installing a new station from scratch.

Cheers
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Howard, 

One thing you might wish to try is a second ISP, and using DD-WRT on your primary router. DD-WRT will allow you to connect multiple WAN sources, designate one as a primary, and use the secondary to fail over to. This feature is typically only found on much more expensive enterprise-grade routers for business. Just a thought...

Rob
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Give a key to a technically savvy neighbor. Neighbors don't let neighbors be off line.
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That is the final default process. But my configuration is far too complex for any neighbors to reboot. So I have produced a number of YouTube videos for some of my ham friends to reboot things

However this single point of failure is not one of my videos yet

It will be by the weekend when I get back.
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Another tip, if you enable Remote ON and place an RCA connector with Tip and Ring soldered together on the Flex Radio, it will turn on when DC power is applied to the radio. You can still turn the radio off with the front button without removing the RCA connector in the back.

I would love to have a software button to turn off the radio remotely. As my only option now is to turn the power supply off which is probably not a good practice to turn off the radio.
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I use a WEMO to control a relay across the Remote On connector. So in effect I have a software switch to turn the rig on and off. Definitely not a good idea to turn the rig on and off by shutting Power Supply. Also with battery backups on PS, thePS is usually on even when AC is not there so I have a separate WEMO to control the PS.
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So the remote on works as a power off too?

EDIT: I just tested it and it does. :)
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Yes.
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Howard, I've just swapped over the internet connection at my remote site from a 4G LTE feed to 100 MB/s fiber connection via a 3 hop 5G WIFI link. For the time being I left my 3 Wemo switches connected to the old 4G LTE router.

This is not a totally redundant arrangement at the moment, but as the 4G LTE route has a fall back capability built in, I intend to rout the fiber feed via the 4G LTE router which will then give me less dependency on a single connection in the event of the loss of the primary connection.

Good luck. I hope you get it sorted before you leave

Winston
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I like Winston setup.
You can use a duplicate SIM card and have your own cell phone data plan be the one that offers 4G internet redundancy. The idea of the fall back internet for me is to make sure everything works until internet is restored or to be able to easily troubleshoot from inside the network a failing internet router.
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On the bright side it failed while I am still in the USA so it can be fixed before I head back overseas.

It would be disastrous if it failed while. I am in Andorra 9/17-9/19.
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Howard:

What? You don't have an OC-192 SONET ring installed at your home QTH with parallel backed inverters fed from a Telco +48V distribution system?  Shame on you. :-) 

Boy you're right on the remote complexities.  N4CC and I operate a remote station on the edge of the Okefenokee Swap.  Great QTH into Asia from FL since the site looks down into a north-south river valley. 

I purchased a used telecom shelter from Sprint Cellular.  It has redundant HVAC, genset input, TVSS surge suppression, and security/environmental monitoring all left over from the Sprint folks.   

A rack-mounted Digital Loggers webswitch automatically pings various devices on the network in search of life. If none, the webswitch initiates a hard boot of the crashed device.  BIOS is also set on shack PC to re-start after a power failure and at 5am as a Hail Mary if necessary.  Very few 1 hour long trips to the site.  Between VNC and TeamViwer, just about every problem can be reset remotely.  A telco-operated AC power switch is at the site but we haven't had the telco line installed.  That's a great way to restart a DSL/Cable modem when it can't be pinged from WAN.  Next, we're looking to add high power Wi-Fi transceivers for connection to another site about 7 miles away for a redundant ISP.  The main tower is 140 ft AGL and at that height, there's good line of sight into Jacksonville.

Paul, W9AC


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Wow, what a great setup! Thanks for sharing.
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Paul:

Do you have a manufacturer(s), p/n, nomenclature for the used shelter?  That is a great setup.

Reg
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Reg,

It was manufactured by Rohn for Sprint/Nextel. I've got the model number on my server and will look tonight. It's the perfect size for this application and not too big where heating/cooling is wasted on more space than we need. Typically, these can be purchased fully loaded for USD $5K -$10K. Even a 200 amp weatherproof panel is included. Simply run the utility meter to the input and you're done.

The entire site will be taken down and moved a 1/2 mile down the road. New construction starts in October. The new site will be even better and give us more room for 160m.

Paul, W9AC.
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Back in the "old" days before internet I used a device called shack master, which worked over the telephone land line, to work my home radio from the office.. Perhaps such  a device could be used for things like rebooting, etc. when internet has failed.
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Howard, something I'm going to try this winter is to add a digital timer. Then have it turn the power off for a few minutes at 3 in the morning, each and everyday. I still use the Wemo for the 6500. The digital timer will take care of any unexpected power failures.

Bill
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Curiouser and Curiouser

Flew back to L J tonite...

It was not the UPS.. or the Modem   - IT was the ROUTER.

I did the usual disconnect the router wait 1 minute and repowered it again but it did not work.

Swapped in one of my spare older slower Routers... that worked OK but no longer running 1GB and none of my fixed IP or static routes were there... 

Fortunately I have lots of backups.....as well as up to date..screen shot documentation  ... but it took only a few seconds of slower operations to convince me that I needed a top of the line router..

So I raced to Costco before they closed and picked up a NetGear R7900 (AC3000) Nighthawk,  Why that one.. it was the only one they had.. and Fry's was add an extra hour total.   And Yes I could have had a R8000 from Amazon by t0AM tomorrow.. But I need thinks to run 100% tonite...

As a lark I put back the original failed router into the network..

Lo and Behold after being off for an hour or so, it powered up and everything is working 100%


So what the heck caused the failure???????  

as the power reset did nothing a couple of hours ago

Likely HEAT??

Either way there is no way I can afford to leave a potential single point of failure in my network especially since we will be out of the country until Oct.  so the R7900 will become the primary router.

Long experience has taught me that every disaster has a positive result.  

First:  I now have a Spare Router (the original one)  that is already programmed with my network configurations.  By just simply changing it's IP and primary gateway address I can easily connect it into my system and have access via a second ISP through it...  

I have done that before in commercial systems so I know that it easy to do and works..

Now if I can just get a second vendor's ISP connection installed before I leave I will have a totally redundant system...

Second:  The R7900 Supports OPENVPN so I now will have a second VPN Network connection available...


AND SOME PEOPLE THINK RELIABLE REMOTE OPERATIONS IS EASY!!

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Howard, I have seen this behavior with other routers. It fails. A reset or power off/on of several minutes fails to resolve the issue. The router is replaced. The old router is re-installed the next day, and, voila! It works. This has happened to me with consumer grade as well as commercial routers - STRANGE!
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It has got to be Heat related. Letting it totally cool off brought it back
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The one Netgear router here that consistently fails will run quite well again from 6 months to a year, then die.  I unplug it for a day and then it's back to working OK for many months.  Heat doesn't seem to be a problem since my shack is between 70 and 75 F constantly.  Needless to say I don't put that router into service anymore even though it will work for a lengthy period of time.  Like you, my luck would be that it fails while I'm out of town!
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METHINKS I SPOKE TOO SOON!!!


It turns out that neither the Netgear R7900 or R8000 support the OpenVPN Client for iOS (R7000 does)

So for all intents and purposes both those Netgear Routers are USELESS for SmartSDR for IOS.

Not being one to spend money on obsolete equipment like the R7000 its back to the drawing board for me...

It means a lot more work to load tables but IIRC the ASUS Routers doe support OpenVPN


OTOH my SoftEther VPN has been most reliable but once I got on the redundancy kick it became apparent to that I need a second VPN as well..

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Howard, if you aren't obsessive about security, you can use PPTP from your router for iOS. I am hoping that ASUS will someday adopt an implementation of OpenVPN that is compatible with IOS so I can get away from PPTP. Presently I can use OpenVPN with my Windows machines.
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Consider adding a simple SMS switch that you can control by simple text messages. They are fairly inexpensive and come in 4 and 8 port configurations.
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Steve:
Can you point us to an example of such a SMS switch?
Tnx de Arnie W8DU
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Nice!!! Thank you for sharing!!
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Tnx Mike. Have you used these? I don't think the carriers in the US use GSM. Does one need a cellphone account assigned to this device? 
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In the US, AT&T and T-Mobile use GSM.  If you look at the picture on eBay, it shows a picture of a SIM card to be inserted into a slot on the side of the unit.  Yes, it will require a mobile account and phone number (that's how you access it over SMS). A prepaid account would be cheap and easy to use for the few times you need it. Some prepaid accounts charge by the text (AT&T is $0.20 per text). Looks like it's a good solution to operate a relay to do various work remotely utilizing a second means of access.
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For oddball devices (ie. non-phones) that take a SIM card I've found Ting Mobile to be very friendly to work with here in the U.S. They'll sell you a SIM card which you can activate online and you can recharge your account as needed. I've designed equipment that uses the GSM network for remote control, and Ting works great in this application. Note that they use Sprint's network, so if you don't have Sprint coverage in your area Ting isn't a good choice. Edit- forgot to mention, they DO support GSM devices.
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Think long term. That is, several relay controlled outputs, several inputs, and remote temp reading. Don't try saving pennies on a device that can save you hundreds or thousands of dollars.

Something like this one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/200525147857

I usually buy from Ali Express from commercial sellers. Some, but not all of these products make it to eBay.
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This is the unit I use to control remotely my entire shack:

http://s.aliexpress.com/2uiYJRbU
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Great suggestions guys
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All this redundancy talk is like commercial aircraft or NASA. You need fall back.  I guess the only real means of assuring continuity when many miles away (halfway around the world for you, Howard, at times) is to install a two complete parallel systems - two ISPs (different technologies), then the two complete strings of routers, switches, PCs, TWO F-6700s, multiple remotable accessories (antennas/switches, towers, etc.), multiple UPSes, and perhaps even multiple commercial power sources (or at least a pad mounted generator with LOTS of fuel). Could get complex AND expensive!
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Lol! Couldn't resist, Howard!
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What ASUS router do you uses?
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I am partial to the new TP-Link Archer series. The C9 is a very solid performer and you can flash DD-WRT which will allow you to install and modify the router to your hearts content. I like price, Gigabit ports, great WiFi performance both 4g and 5g and 12v power.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PDLRHFW/ref=twister_B01KAH1C5Y?_encoding=UTF8
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RT-AC66U. I can get OpenVPN for the Windows machine, but it doesn't work for SSDR-iOS. IOS won't do TUN format with the version of OpenVPN that my ASUS has.

For iOS I need to use PPTP.
The good thing is that a recent firmware update now allows me to use both PPTP and OpenVPN at the same time without going in the back door and switching VPN modes on the router.

I haven't gotten around to putting SoftEther on my Raspberry Pi III to do l2TP/IPSec yet.

If only I could get SoftEther to run as an add on I the ASUS router.

Better yet, if the ASUS router could do native L2TP/IPSec .
I would gladly sacrifice PPTP in exchange for that!

One caveat. Some Maestro users have reports som throughput problems when running Maestro through the 5G wireless on some ASUS routers. I don't have a way to test that.....yet.
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Ken,
I'm using the Netgear R7000 remotely and using the OpenVPN server on the router into my 6500 at home. The router has been set up for the OpenVPN server in the router to automatically connect to IOS and windows clients. I am currently remote now and using both my IPAD with SSDR IOS or windows laptop with SSDR. I haven't tried simultaneous connections thru the router to my network at home. Really neat operation so far, without the need to keep a computer running at home. I used your recommendations for the 2 NEO switches and relay for the remote control of power supply and radio. Still pondering on a solution for remote antenna disconnect.
Stan
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Redundant Power is NOT an issue here. I am 100% solar but connected to the grid and have a 200AH battery bank dedicated to ham radio AND a Tri-Fuel Generator in case the solar panels get blocked by ASH from Fires and the grid fails As happened in 2003 and 2007.
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Which routers support OPENVPN via iOS clients?
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pakedge
Whatever wo2x is using (linksys?)
pfsense
etc etc
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Howard,
I'm currently remote from my 6500 at home. I have an R7000 router at home in which I have loaded VPN settings for both IOS and Windows. It is OpenVPn that runs as a server on the Router., as you know I can connect from this remote location using VPN to the 6500 at home using either my IPad with Ssdr iOS or my Windows laptop with Ssdr. Both can used at my choosing from this location. The VPN server in the router takes care of the interfacing. The R7000 is a great Router and hasn't fallen down too far on the obsolescence curve. The VPN settings are provided by Netgear and the router setup takes 5 minutes. They also have settings for Android devices. Nice.I am not proficient in IT, but the setup was as easy as it could possibly be. The nice added feature is the security to get into my NAS at home for files , securely. I kow you would like some performance data,; all I can say is that I have 50MMPS down at 10 MMPS up at home and at my remote location. SSDR connections are no problem and at high quality . I run fast Network on the IOS app.
Stan
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