Am I the only one who feels like we have taken one step forward, only to take two steps back?
Well, maybe two steps forward and one step back.
By that, I mean:
1. Audio recorder tx playback now has new issues.
2. Waterfall settings now not properly balanced between tx and rx. If set for usable rx display, tx display is unusable, or vice-versa. It worked fine prior to this release.
3. Noise burst from tx audio buffer filling in rx mode STILL not fixed!
4. When SSDR is in full screen mode, the lower side of the 5th sidebar box is truncated. And scaling still non-existent.
5. There are a few other bugs I noticed that are not worth mentioning at this point.
And the numerous others being reported, which are of a lesser concern to my particular operating habits.
I seriously have to ask, what the heck were the beta testers focusing on for the last 6 months? Some of these items were picked up on by users within minutes of the release.
We were led to believe all this time was to ensure that the release would be stable and glitch free. It seems far from it at this point.
I don't mean to diminish all the hard work the developers have put into this release, but I do question the procedures and reporting mechanisms of the testing process.
Oh, wait a minute, I seem to recall that they are referred to as "alpha testers", so does that mean WE are the beta testers?
I am not one to bitch and moan, nor do I plan to dump my 6500 and move on, but come on, let's be real, and call it what it is.
I can't be the only one questioning it all.....................
Maybe the beta testers are too advanced and they are missing the basic stuff? I'm being serious.
Maybe betas are being released too frequently? I once beta tested for a US company called 'MicroHelp' for an uninstaller product. No sooner had one loaded a beta, another was seemingly available. I just seemed to install betas and not have time test them properly, if at all.
It is like a manual being written by somebody really familiar with the software - the tome produced is often not that helpful to a basic user; often posing more questions in the reader's mind than it answers.
As a wiser man than me said, "you can't please everyone."
Oh mercy don't know where to start.1. if you have the processor on , turn it off. yesterday on 40m I guy with another flex 6500 and he told guy would other flex 6500 people said the recorder was broken, I use in contesting so I know it's not broke. My radio worked like a charm and he told me once I turned the processor off and drop the mic gain to 35 percent , no more bad tone he said that turn off the processor clean up the audio of the voice recorder, Does Not you Mic support my setting. well I guess you need to look at you microphone setting.
I get annoyances like GUI issues and things like that basic features like ALC should not have missed the beta cycle.
I am hopeful that because 1.4 included major framework changes that the new updates will be a little more frequently.
Ok try and listen to the audio report. I was taking this a Flex 6500 owner and heard two guys talk about how bad the audio from the Flex 6000. I said let me try it. I turned off the processor and back the microphone gain to 35% and recorded his voice for 30 second and played it back for him , he said WOW! what a different from what , Now have to take his condition with a gain of salt , due to the solar conditions. but I went back to my setting I used 50% processor and 50% microphone gain and he said the Audio went bad.
This is live on the air testing , not reading out a manual.
I would think that these (or some of them) tests were completed:
1. Regression Testing
2. Stress Testing
3. Fallback testing
4. Fall Forward.
5. Negative Testing.
Just my two cents!
"I am not one to bitch and moan,"
Really? Is that glass half empty?
Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of changes, bug fixes and improvements. We should be rejoicing that only a few tiny minor bugs slip thru the Alpha testing process... Ever had a new release of windows with thousands of Alpha and beta testers no bugs slip thru? Even Apple had bugs slip thru on iOS 8.0.
None of these MINOR bugs are show stoppers. Tim has listed them in the bug tracker. So they will be addressed.
Suggest you have a tall cold adult beverage and start playing with all the great new toys Flex just gave us. Life will be much more fun if you look at the positives.
Good Morning Eric,
Sorry you are so frustrated. I really think FRS is doing an outstanding job. I suspect you are frustrated by the process. The SSDR Program will never be perfect. The issue of when do you stop testing and release a version is a tough one. The opinion of this group seems to be FRS got it about right with the release of 1.4. The general feeling of the group seems to be let's start enjoying 1.4 and start dreaming about 1.5 and 2.0 and.....
After some previous releases it was suggested FRS is going too fast. They need to stop all software development until all shortcomings in the current version are corrected. While it may sound tempting at times, it is usually not a viable option for a company to take.
In my opinion Gerald and his FRS team have been doing an outstanding job with the development of the Flex 6000 series. They deserve congratulations not ridicule.
The current (1.4) version of auto-scale of Water Fall is really good. On receive the display is excellent.
To #4 - I only use / need 4 sub-panels at time displayed, no-issue.
WIth the upgrade an underpowered PC is now totally usable.
As Gerald said, now that the heavy lifting and ground work is finished, fix updates should come faster. So relax and enjoy. And the fact that the performance is about 70% higher then it was Is amazing...
Methinks having such a short list of errata after a complete under-the-hood overhaul/rewrite is an exceptional achievement! Well done FRS.
And as reaffirmed by this performance these nits will be dealt with professionally, just like the thousands FRS has dealt with since the first pre-release software my 6700 came with.
Pointing out needed repairs is what FRS expects us to do - this is the feedback cycle that has been huge in improving the radio all along.
And let's never forget that there are real people doing their professional best at FRS receiving those reports. If our tone and demands would feel bad to us, if we were in their shoes, then we have missed a chance to communicate better. Basically we need to have the same sort of bedside manners we expect from FRS.
The whole 6x000 experience is so positive I can't help keep thinking of a movie that had a line that went roughly like:
"Good day, gentlemen. This is a pre-recorded briefing made prior to your departure and which, for security reasons of the highest importance, has been known on board during the mission only by your FlexRadio System Signature Series Flex-6x000 radio server....." or something like that, right?
73 and all the best to you,
On balance, I think it was a Great Leap Forward which should be improved with a point update (I hope). I will be posting a more thorough review later, today hopefully.
1. He is NOT saying that 1.4 should be perfect.
But he did point out a very valid issue and that is why were these obvious bugs not identified by the beta testers ? Many of the issues brought up would not have been hard to find. It is not unusual to release software with a list of "known issues". I doubt anyone expected "perfect" software, but the purpose of beta testing is to help find potential issues.
The root of Eric's post was Flex should consider expanding their beta group. It was not that the improvements were not appreciated. This is a valid issue to bring up and jumping all over him or worse, drowning out his main point with nonsense cheerleading does not help Flex.
Ninety nine percent of people on the forum love their radios and want to HELP the 6000 series become the best possible radio it can be. Bringing up issues or giving blunt feedback (for the most part) is their way to help make that happen.
Most of us have faith in Flex and the platform they have released. But, repeating over and over and over what a great job they have done is not the way to make a better product. They appreciate it and know how much hard work was involved more than you do. What makes a better product is helping them find issues they are not aware of yet.
The title of the post set the tone. Probably wasn't his intention as if it really was I would hope he would have it for sale by now :)
What I have learned in over six decades of life is that you always try to make the best decisions you can with the information and resources you have available to you. 100% of the time, looking back you wish you had more resources and perfect knowledge. 100% of the time you don't have them. 100% of the time there will be those who believe that even thought they don't have all of the facts you have, they could have done it perfectly.
Such is life.
I am very proud of the work our developers and alpha/beta/release candidate testers did on v1.4. I am very glad that we took the extra time on this release to achieve the performance and stability enhancements that were accomplished. Do I wish we had more time and resources - yes. Will any release ever be perfect for every customer? Not in this life. I guarantee this conversation will happen again when v2050.4 comes out and every one in between, no matter what we do.
Such is life.
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Because Flex has made it work the competition is starting to surface. Either Flex makes the radio everyone wants or someone else will. I am positive they understand this concept.
I am looking forward to new releases as much as everyone else and cant wait to spend my $200 for a major upgrade. I bought a flex because I have a good knob radio and figured it would be fun to play with. Oddly enough the Flex gets 90% of the air time and the Ic-7800 sits idle.
I wish there was a better wait to submit constructive criticism as I would like to do it without turning it into a bitch session on for forum.