FMH-2 Microphone now included with the FLEX-6600/M and FLEX-6400/M

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Based on continued constructive user feedback, we are officially announcing that all of the FLEX-6600 and the FLEX-6400 Signature Series SDRs, including the "M" models, will ship with a FlexRadio FHM-2 condenser hand mic. The mic will connect to the back of the radio, using the 1/8' mic connector for audio and the RCA PTT connector for keying the radio.  The mic cable will be long enough to allow for convenient operation with the radio on a desktop.  We will be updating the New Product FAQ shortly to reflect this change. Thank you for your continued positive feedback.
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Mike - W8MM

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Sorry to be OT, but what's the difference between the FHM-1 and FHM-2 microphones?
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Tim - W4TME, Customer Experience Manager

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2 is greater than 1, so it must be better ;-)

The FHM-2 is a higher gain, wider response range condenser microphone.  The FHM-1 was a low gain dynamic mic.
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So given that I make the connectors match up, are you saying that my $250 Heil Pro7 that I bought for my 6500 will not work with the 6600, and that I need to replace it with a Pro7 iC?
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No. You may need to use the 20 dB boost in SmartSDR with the dynamic element of the Pro 7. You will need an adapter to go from the plug on the Pro 7 to the audio in, audio out, and PTT on the rear of the 6600.

Dave wo2x
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Can the mic be removed from the order, perhaps for a small discount? I’ve never even unboxed my 6500’s FHM.
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Tim will the cable be detachable on the FHM-2 included with the 6400/6600 models? That way users can order the optional cable from Flex to use the FHM-2 mic with a Maestro.

Dave wo2x
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Yes, it will.
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Excellent!
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I have activated the Bias setting for the FHM-2 for my 6600M,, however the push buttons on the microphone are not changing the frequency?? I looked in the manual but cant seem to find if their is a setting or function that needs to be turned on, as was the case with the Bias..

Robert
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That feature is not available using the 1/8" TRS jack on the 6600/6400 because there are no control lines for it to address the frequency change.  That is only available when connected to an RJ-45 or 8-pin Foster mic connector.
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Can the 6400 have a 1/4 inch plug Please!!!
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Only the FLEX-6600 and FLEX-6600M will have a balanced mic input.
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Tim, can you post a picture of the new microphone with the connectors. I am havin a little trouble understanding how the PTT works. I see the 6400M has RCA PTT and TX 1, 2 and 3. So what (or which) is used for the PTT and how is the microphone connected?
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We don't have one to take a picture of at this time.  They are being manufactured and we'll not have them until later.

Off of the mic cable is a  "Y" splity" where one leg is the 1/8" mic audio input connector and the other is an RCA male connector for PTT.  Theconnectornctor will connect to the female PTT RCA connector on the back of the radio.  TX 1-3 (TX Relay) is for keying external devices when MOX is asserted (the tradio is transmitting or "keyed up").  The PTT connector is for keying the radio.
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Tim, how will a Heil Proset headphone connect to the 6600 ? Will it require an adapter lead? I currently use a yaesu adapter lead on my 6300 to use my Heil sets
Regards Steve gw0gei
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For the mic connection, the answer is probably not since the connector off the headset is a 1/8" plug.  If the headphones connector is a 1/8" TRS plug, then the answer for that connection is no adapter is needed.
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I dont think I read this anywhere yet...

On the 6600/m is the 1/8" and 1/4" mic connectors separate inputs or are they wired together as a single balanced input.

73,

Rich
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Rich, they are electrically separate.  The 1/8" is a pseudo-balanced input and the 1/4" is a balanced input.
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Rich McCabe

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Well how awesome is that. So we can have options :)

As always, thanks Tim.

Rich
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Will these work on the current Maestro? I had to transform my fmh-1 into a condenser mic to make it usable with the Maestro. I think making this new minc the default accessory with the Maestro as well will be a good idea.
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Not sure if I caught the answer here,

will the FHM-2 work on the Maestro???

Sorry if I missed it.

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The FHM-2 will work on the Maestro. flex sells a replacement cable that has RJ45 on each end and plugs into mic 1 on Maestro. You will need to turn on Maestro mic bias and also be able to turn off the 20 dB boost since the FHM2 has a higher output.

Dave wo2x
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My bad, I just re-read Tim's original statement.

"The mic will connect to the back of the radio, using the 1/8' mic connector for audio and the RCA PTT connector for keying the radio."

So I will change my question to >>>
Is there a Yaesu or other mic with RJ45 connector on it that does work with the Maestro?
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Thanks for the info David.
My thought is that the RJ45 will be more stable and less prone to breakage on the back of the Maestro particularly if I am transporting it to a location other than my desk.
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I am using an FHM-2 on my Maestro at work. I also have a Maestro at home which I use the RadioSport Rs60CF headset with the dual 1/8" roght angle connectors on it. I use the M350 electret condenser element on the RS headset.

Flex sells a cable that pluga into the Mic1 RJ45 connector on the Maestro. The other end is an RJ45 with boot. This cable will replace the cable ahipped with the hand mic that came with the radio and can be used with either the FHM1 or FHM2.

The cost for the cable with the two RJ45s is $12.
http://cart.flexradio.com/RJ45-Cable-...

Dave wo2x
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Tim, what about Radio Sport head sets? 

Will there be an adaptor available?
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If the 1/8" mic connector on the 6600 is wired the same as the Maestro then RadioSport makes a cable for the Maestro that has right angle connectors on it and should work. Tim can clarify.

On th Maestro he mic2 1/8" carries mic and PTT signals.

Dave wo2x
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How will the mic get voltage for the condenser element?

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Same way Maestro does?
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My Flex 6600 is in the mail, somewhere in Ohio and scheduled for delivery tomorrow.  Will my radio include the new microphone and if not, can I get one?
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Alan W4FBI

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should have it. Mine did - received two months ago.
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Should get it with the radio.. BTW, Flex ships using UPS, I dont think UPS delivers ground on a Saturday..
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We'll see :-)  Right now, the estimated delivery date is 5/12/2018 according to UPS.  Around here (Michigan) both UPS the USPS deliver on Saturday/
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Included Bill.
Enjoy the new rig.
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I have activated the Bias setting for the FHM-2 for my 6600M,, however the push buttons on the microphone are not changing the frequency?? I looked in the manual but cant seem to find if their is a setting or function that needs to be turned on, as was the case with the Bias..
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The FHM-2 microphone is a yaesu microphone and the up/down buttons on it are not compatible and do not operate when using it with the flex radios. It is provided as a microphone only.
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This information is incorrect. 

That feature is not available using the 1/8" TRS jack on the 6600/6400 because there are no control lines for it to address the frequency change.  That is only available when connected to an RJ-45 or 8-pin Foster mic connector (Maestro, FLEX-6300, FLEX-6500 and FLEX-6700).
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Thanks for the update and the!!
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I have a FHM-2 mic that came with my 6600M and want to use it with my Maestro is this the cable I need to use with my FHM-2 mic and Maestro?
http://cart.flexradio.com/RJ45-Cable-For-the-FHM-2-and-FMH-1-Microphones_p_969.html
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Sorry to be slightly off topic but could someone tell me the model of the mic which ships with the 6700 and plugs into the front socket.  Also, is there an adapter to allow its use in the rear socket of the Maestro?  Thanks!
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Early 6700 shipped with the FHM1 dynamin. Newer ones ship witht the FHM2 electret condenser mic.

Contact Flex to see if they sell a cable for the 6400/6600 radio. The cable on the FHM series mics is easy to change. Just pull back the rubber where the cable plugs in the mic. It is an RJ45 connector and there is a tab to release the cable.

Dave wo2x