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    What's going on with the new maintenance release 3.1.12?

    Member ✭✭
    edited June 2020 in FLEX-6000 Signature Series
    I just received a maintenance release notification that reads: "May 14, 2020 SmartSDR v3.1.12" I've been running version 3.1.8.
    So do I drop back to 3.1.12 or am I missing something?

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    • Member ✭✭
      edited May 2020
      Bruce

      3.1.8 is an older release 3.1.12 release they **** up the way they have these numbered.
      Thats why 3.1.8 appears the newer of the two. However its not I asked Tim to correct this and he did
      on 3.1.11 but apparently the person who coded it for version 3.1.12 messed up.

      Ian
    • Member, Super Elmer Moderator
      edited May 2020
      What George said ;-)
    • Member ✭✭
      edited June 2020
      Why is this confusing people?  Clearly "12" is greater than "8". So 3.1.12 would be the later version vs. 3.1.8.  (Or am I missing something?). 
    • Member, Super Elmer Moderator
      edited May 2020
      It is a problem of perception.  We see 3.18 more easily than 3.1.8.  When I version software, I decide ahead of time how many digits to have in each part of the version number, then use leading zeroes.  It keeps lists in order and eliminates this issue.  For example, I would do something like 3.001.08 or even 3.001.008.
      73,
      Len, KD0RC
    • Member ✭✭✭
      edited May 2020
      So using that reasoning, the new version would look like v3.112   still looks like the latest.
    • Member ✭✭
      edited May 2020
      Might be easier to understand by switching from the decimal point format to something else like a slash or dash (eg. 3-1-8  ->  3-1-12).
    • Member, Super Elmer Moderator
      edited May 2020
      I think you are missing what I am saying...  The zeroes provide more spacing. Single digits separated by dots often get run together.
      Len
    • Member, Super Elmer Moderator
      edited May 2020
      Must be the “new math”
    • Member ✭✭
      edited May 2020
      I think we are trying to reinvent the wheel! Personally, I don't think changing the format is going to help all people. Just my opinion (which is cheap as everyone has a opinion)!
    • Member ✭✭✭
      edited May 2020
      What Dave said about George:)
    • Member ✭✭
      edited May 2020
      12 may be greater than 8, but 1.8 is greater than 1.12 :-)
    • Member ✭✭
      edited May 2020
      Subtract 1.8 from 1.12 and you have .4 more or newer :-)
    • Member ✭✭✭
      edited May 2020
      The problem is the Maestro reading the version and putting the .8 above the .12
    • Member ✭✭
      edited May 2020
      Yes, I noticed that also. That confused me also but figured it out.
    • Member, Super Elmer Moderator
      edited June 2020
      To try and explain the numbering scheme.

      3 is the major version
      1 is the minor version
      12 is the build for that minor version. 

      Not hard to figure out. No need for dashes. We just need to slow down and see the dots :-)
      Guess that is like slow down and smell the coffee!


    • Member ✭✭✭
      edited May 2020
      This is all very strange to me so I'll chime in...

      It is odd that folks can't see the decimal points, for example, people often refer to version 2.49 instead of 2.4.9. Personally i don't see what is so difficult about reading the actual version number. 

      To paraphrase David, just read the darn number...
    • Member ✭✭
      edited June 2020
      Us old farts can barely see the big "E" on the eye chart, let alone little decimal points!
      Bob K3AC
    • Member, Super Elmer Moderator
      edited May 2020
      Yeah but Flex has announced here, on their web site, and direct email to the people subscribed to the Flex Insider to install 3.1.12 to fix the SD card corruption. There should be no ambiguity as to which version you should have loaded. People are nit picking. Dave wo2x
    • Member ✭✭
      edited May 2020
      Is this "New Math"  or "Fake News" ?
    • Member ✭✭
      edited May 2020
      Re:  To paraphrase David, just read the darn number.

      Hey, don't EVER accuse the general public, OR customers, of reading...
    • Member ✭✭✭
      edited May 2020
      In my humble opinion, a version that was this important, deserved to be 3.2.0 Also, Dave, remember there is a whole community of users out there for whom English is not their mother tongue, so clarity from the get go is very welcome.
    • ✭✭
      edited May 2020
      You all have too much time on your hands . . . Who cares what the version # as long as it works!!
    • Member ✭✭
      edited June 2020
      The problem for me is that on the Maestro 3.1.8 defaults to the top of the version list and is highlighted as the one to use. 3.1.12 is second in the list. You have to manually select 3.1.12.  Before it would default to the latest version without having to manually select it.
    • Member ✭✭✭
      edited May 2020
      Yes, that bothers me, top! :(
    • Member ✭✭✭
      edited May 2020
      No this website is CNN free I hope.
    • Member ✭✭✭
      edited May 2020
      There *is* a minor, but real, problem with Flex's version numbering.  Given a bunch of their version numbers, as on the Maestro startup screen or in a Windows directory, the normal alphanumeric sort does not give you a list that is correctly ordered by date.  And we naturally expect the newest release to be at the top on the display.

      If Flex wants to use the simple alpha sort, they should be sure that the number text sorts correctly (by age). The easy way to do that (as KD0RC suggests) is to include enough leading zeroes in each sub-field. So 2.06.02, 2.06.03, ..., 2.06.10, 2.06.11, ... etc.

      It's not rocket science, but it's a small thing that would make our lives better. :)

      73 Martin AA6E
    • Member ✭✭✭
      edited June 2020
      You people that are struggling to read the versions must have a heck of a time reading ip addresses...lol
    • Member
      edited May 2020
      It is Fake News Fox free
    • Member ✭✭
      edited May 2020
      This is a classic example of letting tekkies handle consumer ergonomics. Complete with the smart comments and excuses. Have seen it many times in industry, and FLEX resistance to changing software at repeated consumer request is more of it.

      The same attitude is also a major reason why excellent Linux has such a tiny share of the consumer market.
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