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Mark Erbaugh
Mark Erbaugh Member ✭✭
edited June 2020 in SmartSDR for Windows
While I’ve had my 6700 for over 5 years, I’ve never used profiles, and I decided to try. I must be missing something, I don’t see how you save a profile. I used the profile manager to create a new mic profile, adjusted the settings to what I needed and gave it a name. I switched to another profile, saw the settings change and then selected my new profile and the settings changed to what I had - fine. Then I changed a setting without changing profile. I reselected my profile, but now it has the changed setting. Is there some was to “lock” a profile?
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  • Ted  VE3TRQ
    Ted VE3TRQ Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 2020
    You are using v3, aren’t you? :-( V3 auto-saves your changes to the profile currently in use. Only way to have an inviolable profile is to export them all, and then re-import to overwrite gratuitous changes. What is needed is a way to control profile auto-save behavior (i.e. on/off).
  • Mark Erbaugh
    Mark Erbaugh Member ✭✭
    edited June 2020
    Well, that auto-save defeats the purpose of profiles for me. I am running 2.5.1 and I guess it has auto-save also.
  • Ted  VE3TRQ
    Ted VE3TRQ Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 2020
    Yup - 2.5 same as 3 for profile saving.
  • John - K3MA
    John - K3MA Member ✭✭
    edited May 2020
  • Andy W3LI
    Andy W3LI Member ✭✭
    edited May 2020
    This actually happened to me. I thought that I had figured out how to create a profile for Amp ON and Amp OFF. On at 40W, Off at 100W. Out the corner of my eye I saw the RED LED on the Amp flashing. Deleted profile, never to use again.
  • Lionel
    Lionel Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 2020
  • KC2QMA_John
    KC2QMA_John Member ✭✭
    edited May 2020
  • Tom W3FRG
    Tom W3FRG Member ✭✭
    edited May 2020
    During your Profile creation, keep the "TX BAND SETTINGS" Table open and select the Tx & Tune Power settings. 
    Check the linear keying source, IE: RCA TX1, or the the one you use.
    You probably have a profile set up for Barefoot on that band also.
    So, switch back and forth between them for the Linear & Barefoot and watch the RCA TX1 uncheck & Check and the Power out level change from low to max pwr for barefoot.

    GL Tom W3FRG
  • Bill -VA3WTB
    Bill -VA3WTB Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 2020
    They found the reason for the SD card issues, and it is not related to auto save. Any time Flex comes out with a feature, it is the policy not to discuss it before it rolls out. Unless that has changed lately.
  • Patrick
    Patrick Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 2020
    Using Global profile to save.  Creat a new global then the two sub profiles will be saved.  Access via Global profiles.  
  • Patrick
    Patrick Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 2020
  • Patrick
    Patrick Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 2020
    The old adage “Garbage in Garbage out” always applies to new software....
  • Patrick
    Patrick Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 2020
  • Patrick
    Patrick Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 2020
    Flex will assimilate you into the Profile!!!
  • Andy W3LI
    Andy W3LI Member ✭✭
    edited June 2020
    As I mentioned in the early part of this post I do not use Profiles and will not, I sure hope you folks figure this out soon and move on.
  • Craig Williams
    Craig Williams Member ✭✭
    edited May 2020
    Absolutely,
  • Patrick
    Patrick Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 2020
    Do as you wish Andy, but you are ruling out the most powerful tool available to run the radio in an efficient and repeatable manner.  
  • Lionel
    Lionel Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 2020
  • Patrick
    Patrick Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 2020
    I probably was not clear on this,  as the reason I think that users are having trouble is because the weakness in the profile/auto save function is that there is a conflict with the those two functions when you manually change the band via the band select window.  If there was another setup in use that was auto saved. It will not necessarily select your last profile, but will select the last auto save setup.  I should have said something about this, earlier.  To get around this, the user should make the profile band centric followed by mode.   ie.  Creat the setup you want including transmit and mic/audio sub profiles.  Then duplicate this basic setup for each band.  When this is done, never select the band from the band select window again.  Use the profile for the band you want.   It makes for a lot of duplication.  And I am not sure why Flex does not understand this.  I do not blame Flex users for being irritated by this.  I think the conflict could be solved by the software setting priority level for band change so that if you selected a basic function profile for FT8 or SSB, and that profile would have top priority when changing bands via the radio band change window on the pan-adapter.  This would eliminate the duplication I have to do in Profiles and require only one selection.  When I went to band centric on the Profiles it fixed that problem for me.  But this is a bandaid fix using a clumsy methodology. I do not know what further to say, as this rub will/is loosing customers for Flex.  
  • Lionel
    Lionel Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 2020
    Yes, I agree with this. Well said. Thanks.
  • Johan _ SE3X
    Johan _ SE3X Member ✭✭
    edited June 2020
    I really really like my 6700 for so many reasons. But this autosave of profiles, I really hate it. It was so much better before the change to this new schmuck! Please Please Flex management, give us  a button to shut it of with.
  • Lionel
    Lionel Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 2020
  • David - KO1C
    David - KO1C Member ✭✭
    edited May 2020
  • Lionel
    Lionel Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 2020
    I've spent several hours over the last two days making notes and taking screenshots to document why the Autosave feature is a problem for my operation.  Now I've put it all together in an organized document.

    If nothing else, I think doing this much work should demonstrate my strong desire to see this fixed.

    Next, who to send to? 

    Posting here as an attachment probably is not very useful as the topic has been beaten to death and the Flex staff that monitor the forum are well aware.
  • Bill -VA3WTB
    Bill -VA3WTB Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 2020
  • Robby Robertson
    Robby Robertson Member ✭✭
    edited June 2020
  • KC2QMA_John
    KC2QMA_John Member ✭✭
    edited May 2020
  • Bill -VA3WTB
    Bill -VA3WTB Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 2020
    Robby, You do understand this, Im glad. I also use Global Profiles instead of using the band selection panel. In doing this there is never any problems with over driving an amp,,never. I just takes a bit of time to set up, but it is really slick the way it works that way.
  • Patrick
    Patrick Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 2020
    This is what I have been trying to get through to the user community.  In my case, and there will be variations depending on operators equipment and habits.  I use pretty much the same as stated above.   Radio crashes requires factory reset, recall the appropriate and reload the profiles. Select the profile all is well.  You just have to be diligent in doing the backups when you change things.  Minor flubs, recall the profile back to good.......

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