DAX problem

John, G3WKL

peter

That's great John, Wish I could get Tim to fix mine by remote access

Bill -VA3WTB

Who ever thought almost all the time spent by customer support would be fixing Windows problems?

Lee - N2LEE

Steve K9ZW

Lee - N2LEE

Steve great comments and persepctive. And you are right, there are pluses and minues to each platform. And yes having a robust API is certainly a good way to help enourage developers to support the system.

I wish FRS had the budget to fund more 3rd party developers. Granted I think they have a done a pretty good job but a large 3rd party developer community is key to locking out your competition.

Microsoft is a good example of their products or business models not being the best but because there is so much 3rd party support, this raises the barrier to entry for competitors.

Jim Gilliam

I've never received a satisfactory answer why Flex cannot design the program so that that it can be COMPLETELY REMOVED. Regardless of the version of Windows, I  have never had a problem installing it for the first time.


Jim, K6QE

Lee - N2LEE

Jim I don't know for sure but my best guess is this is not easy to automate.
For example, how do you indentify real Audio and Comports from Virtual Ports ?

Also if one of the problem appears to be Windows screwing up the mapping between Device ID's then having a program that identifies the Flex ports from other ports would be near impossible.

Lets face it, Windows does a lousy job of managing comports and audio ports. In fact I would venture to say this might be an industry problem. As a Mac user I know they have some weird audio port issues as well. And I am not a Unix guy but what little I have worked with it, the device naming and managing is no piece of cake.

I might be wrong but bus type devices such as Thunderbolt 3 / USB C might have solved some of these problem but I don't know that for sure.

Steve K9ZW

Doing a truly complete removal of many complex programs is non-trivial. Some hams have reported good success with specialized removal tools, but whether these programs remove absolutely the smallest and last vestiges is uncertain. Many programs leave components behind. If you want to read about a particularly nasty case: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2019/07/zoom_vulnerabil.html I’ve been told that some programs bury in when installed but are hard to dig back out. On device naming the conventions get trashed by clever folk who work around conventions to find just that little bit more performance. At one point I had the idea of basically a remote end user’s hardware device where software and hardware were locked down, then the actual PC would hook to that device. Uncertain if the added complications would really make the user experience any better. 73 Steve K9ZW

k3Tim

Steve,

Your last paragraph sounds like the ol' Timeshare DEC PDP-10 days.

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k3TiM

John, G3WKL

David Decoons, wo2x

Windows trashing virtual audio drivers is not affecting just DAX. It also affects Virtual Audio Cable. (vAC) and affects the virtual audio for the K3 USB interface. Not sure about Icom and Kenwood. Dave wo2x