Windows Update 1903 + DAX = migraine and "broken" rig; upgrade compatibility issue?

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peter

Steve

Joe N3HEE

NK9B

I spent HOURS on this item yesterday...I deleted HUNDREDS of "ghosted" endpoints. I even scrubbed the Registry of any reference to "FlexRadio" and uninstalled with Revo Uninstaller. Whenever DAX installs, the endpoints complain of "not being migrated". This is some low-level driver issue, and I'll be darned if I can figure out what/how to name the endpoints. The names seem munged, and appear in the wrong place (IN vs OUT).

None of my system apps (WSJT, Audacity, etc.) can attach to an endpoint since it's corrupt.

Ken Hansen

Ironically, it is the latest version of Windows 10 (1903) that allows the average consumer the ability to defer/delay/better manage how and when updates are applied - a feature previously only available in enterprise deployments.

Rolling back to earlier releases leaves your windows machine susceptible to 'surprise' updates and upgrades.

K0FLY

Same here, DAX drivers messed up,  After trying to manually install the drivers, Windows told me that the best drivers were already installed and terminated the operation.  Video card was given a generic driver, I tried to reinstall the AMD video card driver, Windows indicated that it was corrupted, operation terminated.  Printer driver was not installed, again Windows indicated that they were corrupted.   I reverted to the previous windows update, things got worse.

I finally used the nuclear option and reinstalled Win 10 and other software.  I have since found that Windows has a somewhat primitive Drive image application.  I now have a drive image and a boot CD ROM to reinstall the software.  My data was backed up so I didn't lose any of that .  I'm going to order some better Drive image software.

Gayle K0FLY

Joe N3HEE

The image backup in Windows 10 has officially been depricated and is no longer in development.  Do not rely on it for backups.  It is recommended to use a third party application for imaging and backups.

Ken Hansen

Image backup has been deprecated? I think you mean the registry backup has been deprecated:

https://www.pcmag.com/news/369325/mic...

Ostensibly they dropped registry backups "to save space." Perhaps you were thinking of this feature from Windows 7, which was deprecated before Windows 8 was released, and seemed to involve something other than 'image backups': https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/wind...

Bill -VA3WTB

This is why I still stay with win 7,,never ever have these sort of problems. I also do not allow for updating. My computer only runs SSDR.

Joe N3HEE

K0FLY

Don't worry I have a copy of Acronis True Image on the way.  My image came from the Dell factory load.  I wanted a copy before things got to corrupted from updates.

Gayle

Pat N6PAT

DH2ID

There is absolutely no reason for me to "upgrade" to Windows 10.
I'm staying with Windows 7, and my Linux firewall runs on a
Raspberry pi between my router and all my Windows 7 pc's.
So no worries until some software I really need runs only
on Windows 10.

Steve K9ZW

Pat N6PAT

I installed SSDR on a "fresh" Windows 10 1803 Home Edition months ago and have not had the corrupted DAX driver issue even after numerous updates including 7/9, 6/21, 6/11 , etc.

Steve K9ZW

Faced with the collective experience that some systems have experienced DAX driver corruptions since build 1803 you dodged the problem, but is vacuous to suggest starting with build 1803 is a panacea.

The "Patch Tuesday" mainly security updates have largely left DAX unaffected on systems - they are the lightest touches of updating.

The major build updates (like this recent 1903 update) are more challenging to DAX integrity.  Some systems come through the update okay, more come through okay when best practices are followed, and then again some fail to update correctly despite the same best efforts.

Given the collective experiences it is not possible to generalize from one experience - the collective dataset includes way too many problems to make any assumptions.

Very glad your didn't have problems with "Patch Tuesday" issues, hopefully you will fare well when you upgrade your system to a future major build as well.

73

Steve
K9ZW

Bob G W1GLV

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bahillen

I have a shack desktop computer Thad one has my ham radio applications on it. The other computer is an older laptop with I5 processor. I had a problem with a logging program after the spring update. For last year I had a 3rd party software to block Microsoft updates. I manually updated non Microsoft drivers with Drive Booster. No issues for a year. With my logging problem it was suggested finally to restore before the update. That was a total disaster because of different OS versions. We decided to do a clean rebuild of the computer. My computer tech support was able to recover most of my data but had to reload all of my applications. All software was installed and functioned well. Shortly later I had an issue with my laptop. When we looked at the computer we found a hard drive failure with bad sector found. We replaced the hard drive with a SSD and again did a clean rebuild of the computer. UGH. The SSD drive not only reduced boot time but dramatically increased its speed performance. I learned a number of things. 1) Keep a record of all applications you put on your computer. It took two weeks to finally get all the programs back as I had forgotten how many different apps I really use. 2). Get an external drive that you backup images on regular basis. I got a 2TB USB drive for $89. It plugs into my desktop but I now backup 3 computers on my network to that drive. 3) Be prepared to learn a lot about you computer tools. 4) It might make sense to plan a clean rebuild of your computer operating system once every year or two. 5) Get a free app that tells you when your drivers are not current. This has solved driver problems that can slow your computer down. I run a 6600 with 4 receivers on CW, CW Skimmer, FT8 and multi remote. SSDR 3.0.27 has improved memory leak type problem that I had to shut down and restart my SSDR every day or two. 73 Bill W9JJB

KM6CQ - Dan

Consider using the media creation tool from MS. Then do a fresh install. Choose not to keep anything. Dan

Wim

I just did a full uninstall of smartsdr and dax before doing the windows update, then reinstalled smartsdr but my second DAX channel was not functioning properly, as I went to windows control panel sound settings I got a blue screen in windows ...  not fun these updates ...

Phil N3ZP

Apparently after an update, my Windows 10 PC which was already version 1903, had the BSOD and could not be repaired by a restore or reset. I used the media creation tool to create a USB install for Windows 10. I was able to do a clean install but do need to reinstall a lot of apps. SSDR and other apps seem to be working well are fresh installs.

Phil N3ZP

NK9B

Did the BSOD happen to reference "portcls.sys" or similar? Just before rebuild, I BSOD a couple of times and saw this "portcls" as the offending library. MS really jacked things up this update!

Wim

yep I got a bluescreen in the portcls as I was browsing in the windows sound control panel ....

John Wagner

I have a 6400 and WIN10. I shut off any updates from the Windows Security and Update screen Been fine for quite some time. Stuck on build 1803, no issues. When I decided to update to 2.5.1, I uninstalled everything SDR per Tim's memo. I let Windows update itself, then reinstalled everything SDR. So far, I've had no issues

Pat N6PAT