Remote CW contest setup

Steve - AK0M

Mark WS7M

Ria

Mark WS7M

Ria, have you had a chance to look at Johns VPN issue?

Steve Babcock

The lack of N1MM keyboard CW sidetone being returned from the remote PC has NOTHING to do with latency! This is a recurring discussion here and I fear is why the Flex team has taken so long to add a return sidetone. When sending CW from the remote location using a PC at the radio there is no need to correct for latency at all. Thesudeton just needs to be returned in the same way radio rx audio is sent. The ONLY time latency is an issue for sending CW is when CW is sent via a paddle at the control end. In this case the ONLY solution generate a local sidetone. This is exactly what CWX and Marstro already does. This is also what RemoteRig does. I have communicated this to the Flex team via a service ticket and I hope they move forward and just simply add the sidetone steam to the return audio. In the meantime, I have a workable solution upswing TeamViewer. Here is a copy of a post I made to the community last month: thought I would share a "solution" for the remote sidetone problem. First of all, after reading most comments in the community archives about this issue over the last few years it seems that perhaps there is a miss understanding (or lack of consensus) about why there is a desire to get the remote sidetone sent from the remote radio. For some Flex users it seems they want to be able to send hand-sent or winkeyer CW from a PC over SmartLink and hear the sidetone back from the remote. This is hugely problematic because of latency. This is NOT what is required here at VE6WZ. Clearly this is why the Maestro generates a local CW sidetone with CWX and it works great. This is what Remoterig does also. ***The desire to have the sidetone returned from the remote is ONLY when using KEYBOARD CW from a logging program like N1MM. In this case the delay is a non-issue.*** At VE6WZ using Remoterig K3 twin set-up I have operated numerous CW contests by logging into the remote via TeamViewer (or other remote desktop apps) and used the PC at the remote to run N1MM to do all the logging and send the CW. The CW is always sent without error. Sending CW over the internet has proven to be un-reliable with my WISP provider. It seems to me that this should not be a complex functionality for the Flex team to implement. Just send the sidetone audio stream the same way the RX audio stream is sent. Obviously there needs to be a toggle to turn the sidetone off when using the Maestro to send CW which provides a local sidetone. Implementing this involves no complex solution for dealing with latency. Here is the solution that works for me (quite well) based on the way I operate: Most remote desktop applications stream audio from the remote computer. I have tested this with both TeamViewer and Splashtop. Basically, I plug the headphone out from the Flex into the line-in on the PC. I configure the PC audio to send the line-out audio to the default play back device. This sends the radio audio via TeamViewer. The issue of coarse it that the RX audio is being sent during receive which will conflict with the SmartSdr rx audio. This is easily solved with a small box with a relay which mutes the audio during RX, but is toggled ON using a PTT out line from the Flex. Now, when I operate....I have SmartSdr running on the PC in one window, TeamViewer in another window and send keyboard CW from the remote PC with the sidetone audio clearly provided. Smart Sdr sidetone level control controls the sidetone level. Using a Maestro would prove a bit more complicated but would just require an audio-mixer to combine the audio from the PC (the sidetone audio) with the audio from the Maestro. This is a work-a-round but it sure would be nice to have Flex provide the option to add the sidetone stream to the RX stream. de steve VE6WZ.

Tim VE6SH

And Steve you can confirm the Flexcontrol works remotely? Tim VE6SH Go Stamps

Mark WS7M

Steve Babcock

Flexcontrol works perfectly via remote. This weekend was operating CQww via my laptop logged into my remote station 1000 km away. Flexcontrol works perfect with all functions.

Steve - AK0M

DJ controllers will work with SmartSDR? I've used one with PowerSDR, but was not aware there is an interface for SmartSDR… that would be ideal for remote (or local)...

Tom OK1DWQ

> @"Steve Babcock" said:
> Flexcontrol works perfectly via remote. This weekend was operating CQww via my laptop logged into my remote station 1000 km away. Flexcontrol works perfect with all functions.

How Steve. I am ordered and waiting for delivery of this knob. Could you please to desribe how to connect flexcontrol via remote. I need control SmartSDR on remote desktop. Is there some of trick or redirecting of COM port via VSP application?