After "Transmit slice not selected" Flex do not follow N1MM in SO2R CW a while

Kari Gustafsson SM0HRP

I have got 6700 to play almost 100 % with N1MM with SO2. However, when using Ctrl F1 to switch "F1 CQ.." transmission to other slice N1MM follows correctly the command but 6700 stays on its present RX focus slice as no command was sent. This happens almost always after a warning has popped up on Smart SDR "Transmit slice not selected". Next TX session it shifts to correct slice. Anyone noticed this?
I have configured 10 ms delay of "Focus helpe" on Radio setup. 
Happy easter,
Kari SM0HRP  

Tim K9WX

Andy - KU7T

I can also repro this with my 6600M and need to debug and fix this. Do you use external WinKeyer or Flex's Winkeyer? 73, Andy KU7T (N1MM+ dev team)

N2TTA

Same problem here https://community.flexradio.com/flexradio/topics/flex-6600m-and-n1mm-so2r-not-working-properly

Tim K9WX

Kari Gustafsson SM0HRP

Hi Tim, yes it dissipeared with the internal winkeyer. Never went back to the external keyer. But I will try to test later today for you.

Andy - KU7T

Tim, 
N1MM+ team is looking at this, but I am not sure how fast this can be fixed. In terms of this weekends contest, if it is not fixed by then, is it an option to use the Flex WinKeyer emulation with side tone off?

73,
Andy
KU7T

Kari Gustafsson SM0HRP

Hi Tim, I have just concluded tests with the external Winkeyer. I am sorry to say but the problem with "Transmit slice not selected" remains. I wonder what effects this. Are there some settings that are not correct. I remember that this fault was less of a problem with Writelog. I will test tomorrow. 73s Kari

Tim K9WX

Andy - KU7T

Tim K9WX

Andy - KU7T

SSDR. Full break in QSK.

Andy
KU7T

Tim K9WX

Duh.

I will try these settings in the 1900z CWT.

Tim K9WX

Kari Gustafsson SM0HRP

Hi Andy! It works now with no swiching anomalities like reported before!! Great work! 
I had previously SO2R switch time to 10 ms. And 0 for leadtime and 0 for tail time.
73s and lots of thanks for the assistance. I owe you  now some "Mjöd" (= type of bear made of honey by the Vikings).   

Tim K9WX

Andy - KU7T

Kari Gustafsson SM0HRP

Jon_EA2W

Kari Gustafsson SM0HRP

Hi Jon, 
Yes I use two methods to control audio. First tilde (or EU keyboard equivalent) to toggle between stereo or mono. Then I use the N1MM SO2R functions "swap to other" and "focus on other" which makes the entry window to swap to other transmit window (after CQ message ended) where CQ was initiated. Mean while you have the entry window audio in both ears. Really quite near scenario one. Unfortunately you cannot tailor it more. 
But one big advantage is that you may, while answering or typing on one entry window (say slice initiate a CQ on slice A with Ctrl+F1 while not leaving the entry window (slice . This could be whatever F message actually.  I do not know of any logger that makes it this handy. 
DXLog will allow you to custom design the audio as you want. I have tested a beta release but it did crash a few times during contest so I have out it on hold.  
73s Kari

Jon_EA2W

Thank you for your answer Kari!

I have been using N1MM+ with 2 radios for a while. I use 2 keyboards one for each radio which helps a lot to avoid mistakes when you are getting more tired during a contest. Ctrl+F1 is really very nice, but I suggest that you try with a second keyboard.

I was asking all these questions about how to control the audio because actually I use a Microham u2R for audio management, so I just put N1MM in "Stereo Mode" and the rest is managed with the external device. I will take a closer look to the "swap other" and "focus other" options. I was using them before having 2 keyboards but just for cursor focus, not for the audio.

I wonder if a 6600M or 6700 will handle a full 48 hours contest dueling CQs with 100W... that´s one of the doubts that keeps me out of using just one radio instead of the two I´m actually using.

Thank you for your help!

Best regards,

Jon, EA2OT

Kari Gustafsson SM0HRP

Hi Jon, ok I see. I don not think N1MM supports two keyboards though. I have been using my 6700 now for several big contests (latest WPX w 1650 Q/700 mult) running SO2R for abt 36 hours per contest. No problem whatsover. You may know K9CT he uses 5-7 Flex radios in multi op set up. Another major advantage is the simplified LAN or USB steering of amplifiers, antenna switches e t c. My station is since 5 years back totally remote controlled without any PC:s at remote radio site. This requires a simplified and risc minimized technology scheme. At least for a 48 hour contest

Jon_EA2W

Tim K9WX

Kari: could you describe how you have things connected on your LAN? 

Do you connect to a switch or a router, or maybe both? 

And if there is a router involved, do you connect the Maestro with WIFI or cable?

Tim K9WX

Kari Gustafsson SM0HRP

Andy - KU7T

Kari Gustafsson SM0HRP

Thanks Jon for all valuable thoughts. I will check two keyboards eventhough I am sceptic to more hip movement. About duty cycle I have not heard any reports indicating that the flex 6000 series would not handle 100 % CW cycle. Look forward to working you in the up coming contests. Hasta luego, Kari SM0HRP

Tim K9WX

Steve-N5AC

Kari Gustafsson SM0HRP

Great Steve, very much appreciated. I can do some testing if you want with WriteLog, DXlog and N1MM. 
73s Kari SM0HRP

Kari Gustafsson SM0HRP

Hi Jon, 
I have tried two keyboards and looks very promising. Sorry you can not get the full 2BSIQ ear phone scheme with two earphones between switching TX slots between radios. The back to radio1 or 2 in both ears automatically. "Time slot 4" as Jose calls it.Or have you solved it another way?  

Jon_EA2W