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Does the equalizer still work for the rest of you guyzzz...

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Roy Laufer
Roy Laufer Member ✭✭
edited June 2020 in SmartSDR for Windows
I just noticed that the equalizer settings for my 6700 on SSDR 1.5.1 don't seem to do anything? I tried Dax channels, I tried the main SSDR PC channel, I tried the hardwired headset. (Yes, I selected Rx, not Tx on the EQ window). Sliding the settings, enabling/disabling it provide no change in my received signal's frequency distribution.

Are my ears shot, or is this a new software problem that I hadn't noticed?

(This is probably why FM Repeater's PL tones  seem so much louder these days)

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  • David
    David Member ✭✭
    edited March 2017
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    Just tried it with no filtering applied and WNB, NB, NR applied using REMOTE so speaker on PC and it works  for me on a 6500. Have you tried remote or just sound direct off the Flex?
  • Roy Laufer
    Roy Laufer Member ✭✭
    edited May 2017
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    It's curioser and curioser... Now the equalizer On/Off switch works with slice A, but not slice D!? 

    Very odd...
  • Bill -VA3WTB
    Bill -VA3WTB Member ✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
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    The thing to do when something strange happens is to cold boot the radio.
  • Ed.G
    Ed.G FlexRadio Employee ✭✭
    edited February 2018
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    What mode is Slice D in?

    The equalizer does not affect slices in digital modes such as DIGU, DIGL or RTTY.


  • Roy Laufer
    Roy Laufer Member ✭✭
    edited October 2015
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    Do you mean power it off, then disconnect the power cable for 15 seconds (which I did, without any success), or a factory reset boot (which I didn't do).

    BTW, due to extremely unusual circumstances, I have noticed similar behavior in TWO 6700's today - I doubt that they both suffered from a RAM glitch in the same place...

    Slice A seems to be working fine, but not the rest of the 4 slices that I've tried.
  • Roy Laufer
    Roy Laufer Member ✭✭
    edited October 2015
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    I know that...

    All these slices are on 2 Meters on FM modulation.
  • Bill -VA3WTB
    Bill -VA3WTB Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 2016
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    what happens after cold re boot?
  • WX7Y
    WX7Y Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2020
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    Works here with my 6700 
    WX7Y

  • Roy Laufer
    Roy Laufer Member ✭✭
    edited October 2015
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    No change. No change with factory reset either - my Rx equalizer works great on Slice A and only Slice A (on two different PC clients).

    ????
  • Ken - NM9P
    Ken - NM9P Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 2020
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    I have used it running split with my 6500 and it seemed to work on both slice A & B (CW & SSB)
    I am not sitting in front of the rig right now to do further tests.  I will check some other tests tonight when I get home. 
     
    Ken - NM9P
  • Al_NN4ZZ
    Al_NN4ZZ Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 2017
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    Hi Roy,
    I just tried it here and am also seeing the issue.  
    • The mode is CW
    • Using local audio from the radio
    • Both slices are set to NO DSP features and filter width is  100HZ
    • Both slices are tuned to the same signal
    • RX EQ slider for 500HZ is +10, 1K is +5, others are -10
    I alternately mute one slice and then toggle the RX EQ on the un-muted slice.  Then do the same for the other slice
    • On Slice A there is a very distinct enhancement to the signal when RX EQ is on.
    • On Slice B there is no difference when RX EQ is on or off
    I never noticed this before in previous versions.

    Regards, Al / NN4ZZ  
    al (at) nn4zz (dot) com
    6700 - HW......... V 1.5.1.70
    SSDR / DAX...... V 1.5.1.152
    CAT................... V 1.5.1.0
    Win10




  • Roy Laufer
    Roy Laufer Member ✭✭
    edited October 2015
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    THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!

    [I was starting to feel like the poor guy in the "Emperor's New Clothes" story.]

    Now, it would be nice if one of the wizards at FRS can offer some insight?
  • Al_NN4ZZ
    Al_NN4ZZ Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 2016
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    Roy,
    By the way it is very easy to demonstrate in CW.  Just pick a nice steady carrier, set the volume fairly low, and use the settings and steps I noted above.  

    FWIW, I also create a third slice C and it behaves the same as slice B -- no affect from enabling or disabling RX EQ.

    Maybe it is just some of us that are affected, but it's easy to test and see.

    Regards, Al / NN4ZZ  
    al (at) nn4zz (dot) com
    6700 - HW......... V 1.5.1.70
    SSDR / DAX...... V 1.5.1.152
    CAT................... V 1.5.1.0
    Win10


  • Ed.G
    Ed.G FlexRadio Employee ✭✭
    edited March 2017
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    Thanks for the fine bug hunting! 

    The bug appears to be in the slice cloning logic. Whenever you click the +RX button or right-click -> Create Slice the new slice copies all the information from another slice in the panadapter. There is a bug that doesn't allow it to copy the EQ information and makes the EQ on the new slice inoperable. Re-starting SmartSDR or doing a band change using the band dialog should recreate the slices and make the EQ operable on all slices. 

    I'll make sure this gets fixed by the next release. 
  • Bob N7ZO
    Bob N7ZO Member ✭✭
    edited June 2020
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    Same problem here with 1.5.1.70 on a 6700.  Using slices A & B in USB mode.  RX EQ works on slice A but not on slice B.

    Looks like Ed.G has it handled.

    73, Bob, N7ZO
  • Al_NN4ZZ
    Al_NN4ZZ Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 2016
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    Ed,
    I tried both ideas (band change and restarting SSDR) and no luck, the same result.

    After restarting SSDR the slices are created but slice B is still not working with RX EQ.   Same for the band change.

    Thanks for checking into this so quickly. 

    Regards, Al / NN4ZZ  
    al (at) nn4zz (dot) com
    6700 - HW......... V 1.5.1.70
    SSDR / DAX...... V 1.5.1.152
    CAT................... V 1.5.1.0
    Win10
  • Ed.G
    Ed.G FlexRadio Employee ✭✭
    edited December 2016
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    You are correct, something must have been wrong with my setup.

    Does the EQ of slices created on other panadapters work? 
  • Al_NN4ZZ
    Al_NN4ZZ Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 2016
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    Ed,
    Yes ---  if I create slice C on another panadapter it works.

    Regards, Al / NN4ZZ  
    al (at) nn4zz (dot) com
    6700 - HW......... V 1.5.1.70
    SSDR / DAX...... V 1.5.1.152
    CAT................... V 1.5.1.0
    Win10

  • Ed.G
    Ed.G FlexRadio Employee ✭✭
    edited December 2016
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    Can you try one more thing? Change modes on the slices where the EQ does not work. Does the EQ start working? This may be the best temporary work around. 
  • Al_NN4ZZ
    Al_NN4ZZ Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 2016
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    Ed,
    if I change the mode on slice B (the one not working) from CW to USB,  the RX EQ starts working.

    And If I change it back to CW,  RX EQ continues working.

    So YES, this is a good work around.   

    I'm a CW only op so trying more/other modes is best left to others. 

    Regards, Al / NN4ZZ  
    al (at) nn4zz (dot) com
    6700 - HW......... V 1.5.1.70
    SSDR / DAX...... V 1.5.1.152
    CAT................... V 1.5.1.0
    Win10
  • Bob N7ZO
    Bob N7ZO Member ✭✭
    edited December 2016
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    Same here, changing modes fixes RX EQ on slice B.
  • Ken - NM9P
    Ken - NM9P Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 2016
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    I confirm all of this on my 6500.
    Open slice A, USB, in pan 1 and RX EQ works.
    Mute it and open another slice in same panadapter, RX EQ doesn't work.
    Switch modes to LSB and RX EQ works.  Switch to CW or USB and it still works.
    Behavior is consistent on B, C & D slices opened on Pan 1.

    But if I open A on Pan 1 and open B on pan 2.  Then RX EQ works fine.  I guess that is why I reported earlier that it was working OK here.

    Here is a twist...Additional exploration.
    Open slice a on Pan 1.
    Open B on pan 2   - EQ Works.
    Close A
    Close Pan 1
    Close B, leaving no slices on the pan 2 (the only one left.)
    Open a new slice A on the pan.  RX EQ Works
    Open B on same slice - EQ does NOT work.
    Switch modes - EQ works.


    Additional....
    Open A on 1
    Open B on 2 - EQ Works
    Open C on 1 or 2.  NO EQ
    CHange mode - EQ Works.

    Apparently adding a 2nd or 3rd slice on either pan does not let the EQ work until the mode is changed.  Then all is OK.

    Also, it seems that the initial mode makes no difference, at least for CW, USB & LSB which is all I checked.

    Hope this helps.

    Ken - NM9P

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