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Driving KPA500 with 2W for digital work?
Rob Fissel
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So I've had a KPA500 up and running for a few weeks now. I do a fair amount of digital work, and was thinking to myself...
Instead of bypassing the amp, and using the Flex to run, say, PSK @ 30 watts, why not excite the amp with 2W to get about 30W out? Frequently, I'll get into rag chews where the rig is keyed down for upwards of 4-5 minuets, and the rig will start to get pretty warm. I figure, why not let the amp do the heavy lifting, and save a little life on the Flex's transistors.
Is this ok? I have read that IMD starts to suffer at low drive levels, but I haven't found much out there regarding this phenomenon with solid state amps.
Suggestions?
Instead of bypassing the amp, and using the Flex to run, say, PSK @ 30 watts, why not excite the amp with 2W to get about 30W out? Frequently, I'll get into rag chews where the rig is keyed down for upwards of 4-5 minuets, and the rig will start to get pretty warm. I figure, why not let the amp do the heavy lifting, and save a little life on the Flex's transistors.
Is this ok? I have read that IMD starts to suffer at low drive levels, but I haven't found much out there regarding this phenomenon with solid state amps.
Suggestions?
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I do it all the time. I have never had a problem with distortion or anything like that due to low drive levels. Although I've run my drive level down to 2 watts or so, most of the time I am driving it will a bit more than that. I usually run about 50 watts out of my amp when running digital. This is because of the poor antenna I'm using. I guess you could call Elecraft if you have doubts about driving with only 2 watts.
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Whereas PSK is a constant envelope mode, amp nonlinearity shouldn't be a concern, correct? IMD is concerns are for SSB. You should be able to use a class C amp for PSK. I believe this is correct but someone knows for certain, PSE jump in0
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No, PSK31 actually isn't a constant envelope mode, although it sounds like one. Unlike RTTY it does not have a crest factor of 1. Data is encoded by shifting the phase of the signal 180 degrees (for a zero bit) or not shifting it (for a one bit) and subsequently the signal is filtered to smooth rise and fall times. This eliminates discontinuities (clicks) and minimizes occupied bandwidth. A linear amplifier is necessary to get the benefit of this filtering.
73,
Doug K4DSP
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I put mine up on 20m PSK this evening and ran about 2 watts into it without any problems at all.
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Got a quick response from Elecraft, for anyone that is interested:
You can drive the KPA with 2 watts as you suggest. We have customers driving the KPA with their KX3's and it works fine. You will not have a IMD issue driving the amplifier with a low drive power.
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Part of the magic of the digital modes is they force us to use low power because our transmitters literally cannot "take the heat". This limitation has created a new low power paradise which makes it possible for QRP (for various reasons) hams to compete, and the virtues of digital to be demonstrated.
I shudder to watch the power slowly creeping up from a few watts to more, and dread the day when amplifiers that can run "1500W, 100% duty cycle, no time limitation, key down forever" find a home here. Not that I would personally mind having a little more power on JT65 of course (cough cough) ... <g>.
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I'm with you, Dave.
FWIW, the Alpha amps are actually already rated at 100% key down full duty continuous @ 1.5kW. Imagine a JT9 signal at a full gallon and a half.
For the most part, I run PSK anywhere from 15-30 watts. I figure I might as well offload that work onto a beefier PA.
JT modes I rarely ever go above 10W, and that's after a few attempts at lower power to work another station. When calling CQ, I almost always run Joe Taylor modes at 500mW, WSPR included.1
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