SSDR V3 and memory overwriting TX Band Settings

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OK, so I have a couple of Transmit profiles setup, 1 for driving and amp and one bypassing the amp. In there I have drive power for the amp (around 20W). If settings get changed then a simple revert to the given profile brings everything back.

 I upgraded to V3 and now if I recall a freq memory, whatever power level I had in the memory overwrites the power setting in TX Band Settings. There is no alert that is is changing my profiles. Not a good thing at all. How can I prevent this from happening? This needs to be fixed.

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Gary,

This is covered in the release notes and is a "feature:"

     TX/MIC Profile Changes – all settings are now saved on-the-fly (as settings are changed).



I'm with you in preferring the old way of doing it. The whole idea of Profiles is to allow a quick recall of a set of operating parameters from which you can adjust, as necessary, but which you can always return to with a click of the mouse.  Now, once you make a change, your profiles are done for.

I'm sure there was a reason for this, but I sure can't figure out what it was.

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Dang, this is not a good thing. So why have the feature of a band by band drive level setting but then have this over-written? This was a bad move Flex, at least let us choose to have it do this.
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I thought the same way but after a bit I understand how it works,,, I love it
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When we save a profile, it creats a file,,this file is never changed. The profiles in the radio change with this save on the fly,,but the profiles file stayes the same. When you want to bring back your original profile select that saved file.

You can keep that profiles file on a thumb drive if you want to.
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So, basically the same as before, but with the added step of having to load from a file rather than simply going to the menu and selecting a profile.  Not a major change, but still why that has me scratching my head a bit to understand why it was done.
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I think it was contesting driven, Seting the radio up for a contest is easy now having it all in one panel. And now little changes can be applied and saved on the fly not taking the attention away from the operations. Now unless you make big sweeping changes you could simply bring up the panel and change a setting back.

It is also important for a station to set RF power per band on the panel as an example.
All your profiles stay much the same as always, depending how many things you keep changing on the on the fly panel, If you don't change things much then your profiles will come up as you left them.
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Bill, your talking about the Import/Export to bring back a profile?
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In my early comments I was refuring to the Import/export,,,yes,,,it just fetches a saved file to Import.
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I agree, this was not a good move.  I have had a flex in one form or another and this is by far a feature that should have the ability to enable or not.  I have been having problems with my TX profiles I create disappearing which I contribute to this NEW feature.  If this was done for the contest community, thats a SMALL part of the consumers for a flex radio.  Again, this should be a enable or not feature.  Also who's bright I idea was it to have a TX profile be overwritten automatically?   Stupid move IMO... 
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This is covered in the release notes and is a "feature:"

     TX/MIC Profile Changes – all settings are now saved on-the-fly (as settings are changed).


One of the reasons I have no desire to "upgrade" to v3.
Not being able to turn that "feature" off is silly, imo.
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I went back to ver 2.4.9 till they smarten up and fix this.
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I still don't get the logic that this was intended for the contesting community. As a casual contester, and as a member of a big contesting club, I don't know any hard-core contesters that would want to make what is effectively a permanent alteration to their operating station mid-stream in a contest, but this is exactly what this does. Once you change something, it is now a permanent part of the profile unless you take an even longer time to locate an archived profile file and reload it to undo the change. Previously, it could be done with just one or two mouse clicks. This logic makes no sense to me.

Nothing new in v3 that I needed even though I do like the MultiFlex. However, this one change really messes with my operating process and defeats the whole purpose of profiles to begin with, so back to v2.4.9 for me as well.

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"Mark no features added to V3 will be back ported to V2.5" -- Bill VA3WTB

Bill, 2 questions:

1)  Do you work for Flex? I ask because you have a history of speaking as though you're privy to factory information that the rest of us don't have access to.

2)  If you don't work for Flex, then why do you post statements that only Flex representatives should rightly be making? As just one example, 10 months ago Michael Coslo posted a question in a thread relating to the cooling fans, asking specifically what the fans are lubed with at the factory, and you replied, "3&1 oil is fine".  That's misleading, because you're not a factory representative - I know you're not, because I've seen a post by a Flex representative stating specifically that you don't work for Flex or represent Flex.

So do us all a favor and stop pretending like you speak for Flex, because you don't.
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I've said those same words before.. Only Flex employees should be speaking for Flex
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Mark,,,That was a statment from Flex. But they can change their mind.  And NOPE

I did go back and found my reply as to the kind of oil used at the factory. I did not say the fans are lubricated with 3&1 oil at the factory. This was a cary over conversation in an earlier thread were I suggested servicing the fans first with a drop of oil. He asked what the fans are oiled with at the factory, and I said 3&1 oil is fine.

That should clear up your misleading comment, Thanks for pointing that out.
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I opened up a HD ticket on this and after some back and forth this is what I got back from Flex:

"The analysis of your Helpdesk support incident has concluded that the issue you reported is a possible software defect. I have transferred this issue to the Engineering/Software Development group and placed it in their bug tracker for further analysis.

This issue has been logged as defect number: GH 7368"

This is focused on the issue of a memory recall over writing the Power by Band settings.

As for the profiles being permanently over written on any change, well we will see if Flex considers fixing this. I, like many responses, are hoping for this.
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I posted this in another string so I'll put it here as well in the hopes flex is watching.  

There's another feature or change they made.  In TX or MIC profiles is a button that says "reset" what the hell is that for?  I tested it and it creates a additional profile named "Default" so then you have 2 profiles named default.  Additionally you can't remove any of them.  OMG flex, are your software engineers drinking on the job?

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Here's the email I got back after opening a ticket about the profile issue.  Apparently they are watching cause I did not say anything about switching versions.  Which has nothing to do with it.  This issue was prior to any switching of versions. 

Sorry to hear that it seems like your TX Profiles are disappearing.  Can you tell me more about what you are doing between when they are present and when they are gone?


We are aware of an issue where if you jump back and forth between v2.4 and v3.0, you may experience data loss with profiles as a result of the database schema changes.  For this reason, we recommend exporting your settings including your profiles prior to jumping between v3.0 and any versions before it.  We would also recommend that if you are going back to v2.4 from v3.0 that you do a factory reset followed by importing your settings that you hopefully exported prior to upgrading from v2.4.  This will allow you to go back and forth without losing data.




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