Possibility of Hover-Over Indication if a Slider is Active?

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Taken from another thread:

COMMENT - Flex user Jim:


I feel so absolutely stupid.  All of this time I have been sliding the sliders back and forth on WNB, NB, NR, ANF and nothing happened. Surprise! I actually clicked on the respective buttons and a whole new world opened before my eyes. I'm not even blond...DUH...So now I'll go play for a while.
Don't judge me guys, I'm old.
Jim

REPLY:   Tim - W4TME - Customer Experience Manager          

Everyone deserves a Mulligan once and awhile ;-)


and My thoughts:


Thinking on this, [here at work] we use an industry specific software package that if I were to adjust the settings without that feature being enabled the software in a hover-over type balloon reminds me that that in order to have my setting change affect anything that I need to activate the feature.

I recollect that if the feature is active the hover-over reflects the setting's available range and what the present setting is.

If the indication that an operator is adjusting a feature not turned on could be provided in SmartSDR it would be a nice touch?

73

Steve
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You know... a dot-release of SSDR with a lot of little UI tweaks might be very popular.

Steve K9ZW's idea of providing feedback that a user is adjusting a control for a feature that is not turned-on seems to me to be sheer genius -- The user still can do the adjustment, of course, but is kept from "shooting himself in the foot."

Adding support for the OnMouseWheel event to each of the scroll bars would also be a good thing.

And, of course, there's my personal most-wanted addition: A frequency/tuning display that lets you tune like you could in PSDR (by hovering over a given digit and using the mouse wheel to increase or decrease the frequency by that digit's steps).  Man, I loved that tuning method.

I'm sure the community could very easily come-up with a similar UI tweaks that would delight them. 

What say, Flex folks?  While it's not exactly the most interesting stuff to code-up, such tweaks would surely make SSDR even more pleasurable to use on a day-to-day basis.

Peter
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Rant on Steve
Some of us agree with you.
Both your original post, and your rant.
73, Jay - NO5J
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As you wish Steve. As for this pile-on bs, it's gotten old.
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Be very clear Walt I do consider what you have to say important, in fact important enough to merit its own thread. 

Appreciate your cooperation and consideration.

73

Steve K9ZW

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Steve, I apologize for adding to the noise in your thread. I would suggest, as to your topic, that FRS might consider disabling (graying out) sliders etc.
That depend on another control(button in this case) being clicked/selected, before actions by the second control can be effective. That would prevent making changes to a slider and nothing happening, and later coming back and clicking the button, only to find that the settings you had changed inadvertantly, messed up the settings you thought you had.
Anyway just a thought.
James
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Steve, I don't fault you. It is, after all, your thread. There seems to be a recurring theme in many similar posts, all lamenting why their requests have gone unadressed. It was that unifying thread I was addressing. Very early on in my career I received the following advice, "don't tell me what the problem is, tell me the solution".

As for the pile on reference. There is nothing more I can say without attracting Tim's attention, but it involves middle school girls.
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I agree, these are all things that make operating the software better. there are some things in PSDR were Flex nailed it. To see some of those things come back to SSDR would be nice. I remember sometimes talking in a group and they decide to change Freq, I would simply change the digits with my mouse wheel, they always wondered why I was the first to get there,,lol
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@ Steve - Definitely. When I first got the rig and thought it was broken out of the box (such is just my luck with many purchases, it is a family joke) just because I had not clicked on the DAX button to make it blue. It seems that there are so many places in the IU to adjust/activate the same thing.

@ Peter - YES!

@Bill - I have never used PSDR, but so many people have good things to say about it I wonder how SSDR was released with several things that were patently worse in some way than PSDR. I will not get into how long it seems to take to get things up to par with the same feaature/UI arrangement in SSDR.

73 chaps.
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It took several years to get PSDR to the place were Flex ended off, and were it is now on the last release. It was a slow going. SSDR is able to do much more than PSDR ever could, and it amazes me how a small company like Flex could even pull SSDR off at all. SSDR is light years  ahead PSDR, but it is just the little things that was nice about it.
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Please be clear my suggestion on the hover-owner is not an original idea, rather it is a suggestion based on other software I've used.

Also despite the confusion introduced by thread-diversion I am in no way advocating open-sourcing any significant aspect of FRS's products, period. 

Many of us would consider such a change to be a complete breach of the commitment FRS made to Flex-6x00 buyers from the very start of the project - a commitment to not recreate the technical and economic problems of PowerSDR that ultimately orphaned PowerSDR. 

No apologies about being so direct, as I would have never made the investment in FFS's best hardware if the software were open sourced.

Please remember that FRS has provided for anyone to do their own GUI, so you are free to roll-your-own through their developers program. 

Personally not only am I okay in paying for SmartSDR major upgrades, I further hope that FRS becomes wealthy enough through sales and subscriptions to have a driving eager desire to keep building better and better versions of SmartSDR.  That sort of desire to innovate isn't going to happen in a software model that denies FRS the economic rewards that it is due.

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Steve K9ZW


 


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Thinking further about the suggestion to "grey out" the unselected option - does the risk of a feature being overlooked in total occur if a selectable but unselected option is greyed-out?  

Usually a software gray-out is not unselected, but is unselectable - rather the Grayed Out feature is dead.

In the case of these sliders being able to set them up before toggling the feature on is desirable, so locking the feature out as dead would be unhelpful.

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Steve
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