Beta and WSJT-X

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Since the upgrade to the Beta version I have had issues with retries with WSJT-X 16.   At first when changing bands I would get the dialog on WSJT-X to retry and it would connect to the radio.   Then it would take a reboot and now it will not connect at all.  I have uninstalled and reinstall without change.  I am wondering if need to remove all te SMARTSDR software and do a clean install?   Any suggestion are appreciated.  I have not tried rolling back to the last stable version. 
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Paul, everything depends on how you connect WSJT-X to SmartSDR.
I use MiniDeluxe and never have had any issues. 
Please post your connection and maybe a screenshot.
73, Alex - DH2ID
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1.10 and WSJT-X with JTALER-X works great hear

Jim

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I use the Kenwood TS-2000 setup but have tried omnirig, TS-480 which has worked in the past and Ham Radio Deluxe.  Today I downgraded to 1.9.13 and all is back to normal.    I am getting retry every so often when I change bands but the two programs are communicating again.   I use the Minidelux in DDUTL to drive the HRD logbook but I have never been able to get WSJT-X to use the HRD Setting.  

Also on the CAT panel Com 12 shows connected to WSJT-X on both the Beta and on 1.9.13 but on the Beta there is no contact  just a Hamlib error'IO error while open connection to rig'
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Paul

You may have another Radio Control option available. A few compiles back, before the 1.7.0-GA version was released (so it's working in the current GA release on Sourceforge), the  FlexRadio 6xxx option became functional. To use it, Try localhost:5004 in the Network Server settings box in WSJT-X in File / Settings / Radio Tab.



It's been working for me, when configured as above, for several weeks now.


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Local host:5004 Does not work for me. Kenwood ts2000 only setting that works.
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Pat
OOPs ...

I forget one other little detail, sorry. for the FlexRadio 6xxx option to work it will likely need a TCP port (I used 5004), set up in SmartCAT. It needs to be able to connect to a TCP port on the PC your running SmartCAT on.



SmartCAT is already connected to the rig over ethernet. The TCP CAT port gives you a port for WSJT-X to connect to. (Port # is up to you)

Also be sure your firewall isn't blocking that port.

Maybe that will get it working.

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Can you post a link to the 1.7.0 page please
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Well just got it working but used LAN address with the 5004 port number working great. Did not add entry to CAT. Wonder why it works. Actually working perfectly with out errors.
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Pat

Maybe I don't need the SmartCAT TCP port either, When it started working, I stopped experimenting with it. "When it starts working, it ain't broke, go break something else, before you start doubting your abilities"

I can usually break things on the very first try.
I don't usually even need to read the docs first.

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My bad not working as the config reverted back to ts2000. Set up cat for 5004 tcp port now working as advertised. Darn computers play tricks......
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Sometimes the Computer is quicker than the eye. If you blink it almost seems like magic.
 
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Paul

You did take the hint to upgrade to WSJT-X 1.7.0, right?
It's the real deal now, not a release candidate.
Several new features now work!

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Yes, did so when 1.7 was released much improved decoding.
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Okay Pat and Jay.

I am trying to pass audio to JT/65/9 and my DAX TX Stream say that I am streaming. I  hear the  tones and my TX Stream it indicates that it is streaming however no power is indicated and the panadapter goes black on transmit for the 48 seconds duration. 
I used Jay TCP:Port 5004 and Pat I used the  F-6700 IP address, the slice is set to correct one (B) in my case. Transmit DAX is Blue (on)
I had it going for a while and all the sudden it stop. Do I need to setup a Sound playback "DAX Reserve Audio (RX3) Or, how are you getting the tones to the transmitter?
Any suggestions? 
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Ernest the info I gave was wrong due to computer reverting the wsjt config back the ts2000 config. So don't use IP address. Use the localhost:5004 (actually any unused port will do) and set up cat for tcp on that same port. Had to do restart on cat after save and restart of wsjt to make it work. After that it will run ok at startup.
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Ernest




And then ensure that this is lit Blue.

                        And then ensure that this is lit Blue.

I'm triggering the PTT with CAT, but If I understand what you said, your
not having any PTT problems.

I'm only selecting PC as the source because it lets me select DAX enabled. I don't want any chance of BAL, or MIC audio being mixed in and broadcast.

That should work in theory at least.
Unless I'm forgetting something.


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Pat those settings  are all set correctly and  working fine.
it's just no tones to modulate the transmitter audio level. This happened when I switch to the X version.
Dudley recommended to go back to and older version. However, I had deleted all the old versions and I could not find it on the WSJT website.
I see that you mentioned to upgrade to WSJT-X 1.7.0. that was recently released.
I am going there now to download it.


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Use jays tutorial to set up dax
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Anyone wondering why, "DAX RX 2"? Because Slice A and Fldigi have DAX RX 1 tied up.

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Thanks, Pat and Jay.

I hadn't used WSJT in any of its variants for quite some time. I decided to polish it off so I could try for AK and AL on 160 Meters.

After downloading WSJT-x v.1.7 a few weeks ago I tried to do the TCP port connection to my 6500 and couldn't get it working. So I quickly went to the program's Kenwood TS-2000 mode and used a CAT Com port, and bingo! I ran it that way for a week or two.

After reading your posts again today, I tried in Flex-6000 mode with "local Host:5004" (actually, I have created 4 TCP ports for future use and plan to run multiple sessions simultaneously for 160, 80, and 40 at the same time. )

All is working well at the moment. And it saved a few CAT Com ports. Thanks.

Now, to write some bat files to open each one independently.....

Ken - NM9P
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Ken 

I've been creating TCP/Serial pairs for each slice, and sometimes with an alternate set for the A slice. It lets me do silly stuff, like running CWskimmer and Fldigi in parallel on the same signal. Drag racing the decoders sorta. 

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I typically have as many as 12-15 different CAT ports defined, and assigned to different slices. Usually one or two for each of several digi programs that I use.

I haven't done much with TCP ports interfacing with the 6500, so this is a nice experiment.

It will be nice when some of the other of my favorite digi programs and logging programs learn to play the TCP way!
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Ernest

I've had a lot of trouble getting the older WSJT version to work. I used it in the past, But I've slept since then. WSJT-X has worked fine for me since around version 1.4, so I usually don't try too hard with the original WSJT.

I like being able to work JT65 and JT9 simultaneously from the same slice with a 4K filter. I also like that WSPR is built-in as just another mode.
 
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Still not  solved.
I must have unchecked or using the wrong audio sound selection  that it is preventing audio to modulate the tones only on JT65/9.
HRD is working GREAT... guess I'll do more PSK and RTTY etc...for a while and maybe get my head back on to continue this JT65/9 problem.
Thanks all.
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Remember there is only one selection for transmit side, look at the earlier post by Jay.
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Thanks Pat,
I solved that problem by following the instructions that I received early this year from Dudley at FRS. I took notes from his explanations and came up with mine: "How to Correct DAX Errors in Audio Input & Outputs" for dummies: Which I must add, is much easier to follow than the one from Tim at FRS. (In my opinion)
For example:
How to uninstall SmartSDR and delete DAX errors
(In Control Panel) open > Device Manager
a. Check Audio Inputs and Output: see if any ghosted DAX drivers are left in the          sound device.
b. If there are any DAX drivers; they should be uninstalled, one at a time.
Etc...
I emailed Tim, and enclosed the Word document above; asking him for suggestions or necessary corrections to make it available for those of us who are not that technical savvy in the forum: When it comes to getting around the computer.
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If you follow me guaranteed you will get lost. But thanks for moving me in the right direction. WSJT-x. Is now released. Glad that they got 6xxx config active. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
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Hey Jay,

Thanks for letting the group know about the new release of WSJT and the update to support 6k over ethernet. I followed your guideline and had it up and running in 10 seconds. Originally was using a vTTY but now connection is IP based. 

Many Thanks,
k3Tim
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When i run more than one wsjtx instance, i have to assign more tcp ports?
Every slice has is own tcp-port?
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Geert

Correct, each slice needs it's own port. The 6500 has 4 slices, I configure 4 TCP ports, and 4 Virtual CAT ports, one for each slice. This way I can run any App on any slice, no matter what sort of CAT it speaks. I configure both Virtual and TCP PTT ports also. But only a single pair of them.

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That works great Jay, thanks.
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I can not seem to get this to work at all. I have tried on 3 different pc's they are all win10 x64 and I have a flex6300. I have tried the beta and also rolled back to the normal release and wsjt-x 1.7 I can use TS2000 cat and it works great but TCP just gives a hamlib error. I have no windows firewall and have setup TCP in the smart cat with 5004 port restarted everything. Don;t know if its a win x64 thing or flex 6300 issue. Any suggestions?

Edit: Just also tried with my tablet thats win10 x86 still the same problem. Has anyone with a 6300 got this to work?
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Are you installing a freshly downloaded copy of WSJT-X downloaded from SourceForge?

This feature is only about 3 days old.

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Sorry I guess i didn't make clear that this is a new trick.
A new undocumented trick.
We are still learning how to do the trick.
Didn't work at all on anything prior to the WSJT-X 1.7-rcX release candidates. But it's fixed in the WSJT-X 1.7.0 final release.

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Jay thanks for the help. yes I am using wsjt-x 1.7.0 final release. I am starting to think that its something different with the 6300. I just tried it on win 7 x64 same issue. 
I just worked my 50th confirmed US state on jt65 this evening I got my Xmas present early :)
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You might be right. I've only got a 6500 to play with here. Or, I might not be explaining it all correctly. I did kinda stumble my into getting this to work. After months\years of waiting for them to fix Hamlib3. I'll sleep on what might be going on with a 6300 model but to be honest I don't think Hamlib3 knows one model from any other 6xxx model. Stay tuned! I'm stubborn with things like this.

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Thanks Jay for the heads up on V1.7 WSJTX update

Took about 15 seconds to install, setup,and start my first Q.
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It ought to always be that simple, maybe I'm just lousy at explaining.
I know one right way, but I haven't discovered enough of the wrong ways yet. What's obvious to me must not be so obvious, obviously!

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I use 4 instances from wsjt-x 1.7. Works great on my flex 6500.
On the picture you see:
- 4 x wsjt-x 1.7
- 4 x jtAlert
- DDutil to monitor temperature
- Log4OM

Computer:  Apple Imac 28" (use bootcamp to run Windows10)

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Hi Geert,

I managed to also use multiple WSJT-X instances, and decode on several bands simultaneously using the --rig-name=xxx command line option. How do you setup multiple JTALERT's, do they also need same rig-name and deparate UDP port numbers then for each instance ?

thanks es 73 de K6TE Wim
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I think it might be a handshake issue with a 6300

I ran the command line
rigctl-wsjtx -m 236 -r localhost:5004 -vvvvv

And received this back

flexradio_open called
verify_flexradio_id called
kenwood_get_id called
kenwood_transaction called
kenwood_transaction: cmdstr = ID
write_block(): TX 3 bytes
0000    49 44 3b                                            ID;
read_string(): RX 6 characters
0000    49 44 39 30 37 3b                                   ID907;
verify_flexradio_id: Rig (ID907) is not a Flex 6000 Series
rig_open: error = Protocol error

Can someone with a 6500 or 6700 run the above from the command prompt and see if you radio ID is different than ID907



EDIT:: looking into the source code on hamlib github there is no ID for a 6300 only for

6700 ID904
6500 ID906

anything else not a Flexradio

https://github.com/N0NB/hamlib/blob/master/kenwood/flex.c

the flex6300 needs to be added with ID907 to the github source. I might try to compile a copy to play with
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KB4AAA, thank you for the file. Worked fine with my 6300.
73 de Mike W9OJ
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I glad it works enjoy it! I pulled my hair out for awhile trying to figure out what was going on. Like everyone in the thread said it should be a 20 second setup. Now it is with the 6300 patch lol
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Yep about 20 sec.  I had a little heart palpitation when I tried to transmit and nothing out and a crazy pattern on the screen, but once I realize the DAX button was not pushed I called myself a few names and made the contact.  Thanks again.
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Thanks for the workaround...  I just set up my 6300 / WSJT-X to work with TCP ports.
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I received an email yesterday from one of the Hamlib devs, pointing out the the 6xxx option might not be 100% functional yet because it's all still being worked on and tested. He suggested the TS2000 option would still work if we ran into problems, with the 6xxx option. At least it's controlling VFO changes and PTT, no idea what else might not be functional.

From personal experience, I can report that the DXLabs-Commander, and Omni-Rig options also work with SmartSDR. DXLabs-Commander, is also done over an Ethernet connection.  

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My Flex 6300 works well with WSJT-X via TS2000 settings and also via DX Lab Suite settings but I'm interested in getting the TCP option working .  It does not work at the moment, am I correct in concluding that the rig ID issue for a 6300 has not been resolved yet ?

Andy K3UK
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I found KB4AAA's files , nice!  Many thanks. Now to try TWO instances of WSJTX running separate TCP.
Andy K3UK