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SSDR "mirrors" Maestro with Stacks 3!

Sergey KN7K
Sergey KN7K Member ✭✭
edited March 2020 in SmartSDR for Windows
First of all Big Thank you to author of Stacks3 !
Based on the post below, I was able to finally "mirror" Maestro and SSDR !

https://community.flexradio.com/flexradio/topics/smartsdr-v3?topic-reply-list[settings][filter_by]=all&topic-reply-list[settings][reply_id]=20180598#reply_20180598

This is the most desired features by many HAMs, but not sure if it was covered here and if I simply missed it.

I posted a video on the performance, however I can only use it in a "mirror" or "sync" mode on Slice A.  I cannot make a 2nd Slice (B) to do the same as A. Can someone confirm if you can make 2 slices on SSDR to follow Maestro? Here is the link to the video:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xfAWhVzVVXDY_tRFTj032J_1RlxFymYq

Here the feature desribed on Stacks3 website:
 "Sync Client Slices feature will keep clients' slices in sync with each other. The purpose is to allow the use of Maestro as a control surface for SmartSDR when co-located. You must not bind to a client for this feature to work".
I am not sure what "co-located" means, same band?

I think Flex should have this feature a long time ago as this make Maestro usable with Big screens!

Sergey, KN7K

Comments

  • Eric Gruff
    Eric Gruff Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
    I also want to thank the Stacks3 author for the ability to mirror a slice between the Maestro and SSDR.

    I tried to set my 6700 to SO2R mode after successfully mirroring a single slice using Stacks3, but everything went haywire. The PTT was clicking madly and the only way to regain control was to change to a single slice preset.

    Maybe it's something that can be fixed, but I thought I should at least raise the issue so everyone's aware of it. In the meantime, I can either stay with Maestro only or use the 6700 as Radio 1 (with mirroring) and my Yaesu FTdx5000 as Radio 2. The latter definitely has all the knobs and buttons a ham can possibly want. ;-)
  • Larry _ NY8T
    Larry _ NY8T Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 2019
    co-located means SSDR PC and Maestro located in front of you at same location.

    I have a 6700 with 3.0.27

    on maestro 2 panadapters with one slice each A and B

    on SmartSDR 2 panadapters with one slice each A and B

    Sync with FRSTACK and slice A on maestro controls slice A on SSDR 

    same with slice B on second panadapters

    smartsdr controls maestro also, they are sync'ed

    You can have  A and B slices on one panadapter also
  • Sergey KN7K
    Sergey KN7K Member ✭✭
    edited March 2020
    Larry,
    Thanks for the info.
    I could not work it before, but may be sequence was wrong.

    Eric, please try that sequence, seems like it works:

    1. Start SSDR abd Maestro
    2. Open 2nd panadapter on SSDR and Maestro
    3. Setup slice A to 6m, slice B to 12m on SSDR (can use different bands, this is just what I used).
    4.Maestro Slice A to 6m, Slice B to 12m
    5. Stacks3 set to "Sync Clients"
    So far it is WORKS !!!, but need more time for testing.

    Sergey, KN7K

  • KF4HR
    KF4HR Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
    The Client Sync'ing features works fine here.  Once again, my hat is off to Mark!  Thank you!
  • Eric Gruff
    Eric Gruff Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
    Sergey,

    Many thanks. It does work this way until I open N1MM+ for logging and control and try to switch focus. Then some funky things happen - both slices seem to go to the same band and PTT clicks rapidly with flashing screen. The only way to stop this is to close N1MM+, but then the Maestro and SmartSDR seem to have lost sync. I suspect I'm pushing things one step too far.

    If I open N1MM+ with just Maestro or just SSDR, all is well. I can toggle from one slice to the other and everything seems to be happy.

    73 de NC6K
  • Sergey KN7K
    Sergey KN7K Member ✭✭
    edited March 2020
    Well, I still testing 2 Slices and believe there is an issue here.

    While I successfully listened 2 bands independably few hours ago, I just got to the radio this evening and on slice B (12m) changed band to 80m.

    While I changed band on Maestro slice B, everyting getting in confusion, here what I see:
    1. There are some clicks inside of the radio during the switch, lasting 2-4 sec.
    2. Antenna Genius confused as it shows Slice A and B on the same antenna with red color (not permitted by my settings).
    3. Maestro shows A -6m Wide, B-80m wide
    4. SSDR A shows 80M (80M band but A in the right side of panadapter/in the corner pointing to 6m band
    5. SSDR - B still shows 12m.
    So, while 1 slice performance is good so far, there is something wrong with 2 slices (2bands setup).

    Again, maybe I am doing something wrong and would like to hear from others who tried it.

    Thanks
    Sergey, KN7K
  • Sergey KN7K
    Sergey KN7K Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
    Yes, see my post below.
    Something not reliable with 2 slices and I cannot make sence of it yet.
    I did not try with N1MM yet, just trying to learn and understand the logic.

    Sergey, KN7K
  • Eric Gruff
    Eric Gruff Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
    I think our responses overlapped. Yes - 2 slices is problematic, especially with any other rig control software involved.Clearly, this will work eventually, but for now, it's definitely not suitable for prime time. 
  • Neil D Friedman N3DF
    Neil D Friedman N3DF Dayton, OHMember ✭✭✭
    edited March 2020
    A key reason I bought an M model, rather than a 6400/6600 and a maestro, was to use the provided HDMI connector for large screen mirroring (no PC necessary).
  • Sergey KN7K
    Sergey KN7K Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
    Neil, I got 6600 and Maestro as I see this combination has more benefits (for me) compared to the M. For each it’s own, right? Sergey, KN7K
  • Neil D Friedman N3DF
    Neil D Friedman N3DF Dayton, OHMember ✭✭✭
    edited June 2019
    Absolutely, Sergey.  If I had a strong need to operate remotely from the radio, I would have done the same thing. However, I think some don't take the HDMI connector into consideration when making the choice. 
  • Eric Gruff
    Eric Gruff Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
    I have a 6700 that I bought several years ago, so no option other than to use SSDR with big monitor. 

    On the bright side, I have set up N1MM+ with bandscope and am using Maestro for control. That gives me 95% of what I need (readable band display with spots and the ability to use the real knobs and buttons on the Maestro).
  • Sergey KN7K
    Sergey KN7K Member ✭✭
    edited June 2019
    Eric,
    Could you share your n1mm settings either here or in email? My email is at qrz dot com
    One more things to experiment - I was changing bands from SSDR last night and that could confuse my antenna setup. Need to try to change bands from Stacks where I have saved settings per band and mode. Also, not sure what to choose at Stacks3 in sync mode: on the left side you choose Active - Maestro or SSDR, I think it does not matter in Sync mode, but need to test it.
    I will not have much time today, going out till late evening.
    Thanks
    Sergey, KN7K
  • Sergey KN7K
    Sergey KN7K Member ✭✭
    edited March 2020
    Tried again few different scenarios, here is the one that I do not understand:

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1leWewgcVvF8YxfVIsr8zDc_rsjQe14i_

    See what happening on the 2nd panadapter.

    Larry, W8LLL could you please share more details on your settings.

    Thanks,
    Sergey, KN7K

  • Larry _ NY8T
    Larry _ NY8T Member ✭✭✭
    edited July 2019
    No special settings, I duplicated what you showed in the video and see exactly what your seeing. A small move of the B VFO knob on the maestro brings the 12 meter slice back into view.
  • Clay N9IO
    Clay N9IO Clay N9IO Member ✭✭
    edited October 2019

    @Eric / All,

    Can you tell me what the status is on Mirroring with Stacks3 and N1MM+ now?
    About to install those softwares on a new PC and would like to go in with eyes wide open.

    Thanks,
    Clay N9IO

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