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New radio announcement at Dayton ??

Let’s try and guess if Flex will announce a new radio at Dayton this year. My guess is a replacement for the 6700.
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  • TomTom Member
    edited April 11
    A replacement for Flex 1500??
  • Jon_KF2EJon_KF2E Member ✭✭
    edited May 2019
    A competitor for the IC-9700?
  • Neil D Friedman N3DFNeil D Friedman N3DF Member ✭✭
    edited October 2019
    No new radio announcement. 
  • Johan _ SE3XJohan _ SE3X Member ✭✭
    edited May 2019
    Useless speculations. Spend your time using the current Flexradio if you have one? Doing radio and having fun.
  • Robert LonnRobert Lonn Member ✭✭
    edited May 2019

    This would surprise me if they did!!! I think working on Software now that 3.0 is released is key.. A competitor to the IC-9700 would hit a  smaller portion of the Ham Community.. Also, hitting a $1800 price point is not going to be easy.. But the FLEX VHF-UHF etc. radio would have HDMI, 10 MHz lock and probably a lot of neat features plus Smart SDR remote operation.. It took ICOM almost 18 months to bring the radio to market.. Some rumors have Yaesu in the HUNT for this share of the market.. You can get transverters for the FLEXD if you want VHF and UHF.. For now Satellite Operation is on my GPS 10 MHz Locked ICOM IC-9100 radio...
  • Manuel MasedaManuel Maseda Member
    edited May 2019
    It would make sense for Flex to move the 6700 features on to the 6600 architecture and case form factor.
  • KF4HRKF4HR Member ✭✭
    edited August 2019
    I'm guessing V3 was the 2019 announcement.
  • Cal  N3CALCal N3CAL Member ✭✭
    edited May 2019
    Ditto
  • John WA7UARJohn WA7UAR Member ✭✭
    edited February 19
    I'll add a guess that the eventual replacement for the 6700 will include TWO transmitters -- giving each person using Multi-Flex a complete and independent experience. 
  • Sergey KN7KSergey KN7K Member ✭✭
    edited March 1
    6800 with 4 antenna outputs!

    Sergey, KN7K
  • Clay N9IOClay N9IO Clay N9IO Member ✭✭
    edited May 2019
    I think so too. Version 3 is still in it's infancy with BIG potential!
  • Bill -VA3WTBBill -VA3WTB Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 2019
    That is the reason for the latest servey.
  • k3Timk3Tim Member ✭✭
    edited June 6
    An eight channel receiver good for DC to 6 Ghz using a Xilinx RFSoIC and 4 channels of DAC for TX.  With onboard SoC for a minimal parts count solution. The development board is US$7,995. Some would say expensive. 

    Maybe not for Dayton 2019 more like 2020
  • Richard McClelland, AA5SRichard McClelland, AA5S Member ✭✭
    edited May 2019
    I was thinking that DC to 440 Mhz would be pretty sweet.
  • KI4PKI4P Member ✭✭
    edited May 22
    Maybe some software fixes
  • Charlie_KB8CRCharlie_KB8CR Member ✭✭
    edited May 2019
    If anything.....maybe v2.5 
  • Cal  N3CALCal N3CAL Member ✭✭
    edited May 2019
    Like Tom I've owned a number of Flex radios but what good is another new Flex radio if the software that "defines" that radio is below par?  I will no longer be jumping in line to order any new Flex radios or hardware until Flex starts addressing the issues with current software!  

    Cal/N3CAL
  • Robert LonnRobert Lonn Member ✭✭
    edited May 23
    Last night I was tuning around on my JRC NRD-545 DSP radio... I normally go to this radio for SWL listening,, Sometimes it is my Drake R8B... I ran into a situation where I was getting a lot of noise across the band,, Actually it reminded me of the Yaesu Video on the NR for the FTdx 101D radio.. 

    I figured this would be a good test on NR.. So I fired up several radios to check this out...  First the NRD-545,, on a scale of 1-10, the noise was reduced to a level 6.. OK but not that good.. The Drake has a Noise Blanker and it was almost non effective.. The the ICOM IC-R8600 that just got the new 1.34 Software.. It reduced it from a 10 down to a level 7, but it added Audio Distortion as you increase the level, sort of that wobbly sound..

    Turned on my Yaesu FT-1000MP Mark V that has a very good 4 setting NR circuit, Again probably a 8, not bad, best so far...Then I turned on my ICOM IC-9100 radio (Satellite Radio), and again probably an 8, but noting as dramatic as the new 101D radio demonstration... On went the Yaesu FT-991 used in the Motor Home, Well the NR is just not that great as it has heavy audio distortion, been that way since I got the radio 2 years ago... I would rate it a 5!!

    So now on goes the FLEX 6600M.. After listening to these other radios I had a fairly good baseline.. I also watched the YouTube video again so I wanted to calibrate my ears... 

    After tuning on the Flex and tuning in the station with NO NR turned on, I hit the NR button.. OK, that was not to bad, but I had the NR level set relatively LOW,, so I went and cranked it up to 100% "Figuring" that along would come Audio Distortion,, but that did not happen, it improved it a lot to a 9 level,, OK Impressive and not what I expected... Remember the Yaesu 101D is a 10..

    BUT!!! Then I discovered something interesting.. If you watch the Yaesu Video you notice that when he turns on the NR, it takes like 1  to 2 seconds to become fully engaged.. Well with the NR on my Flex at 100% i wanted to turn it on and off as a comparison, and my Flex did almost the same thing,, took a second for the NR to fully engage. And this time the NR was more effective raising the bar to a 9.5,, I was amazed how well it worked.. 

    Next thing was to reduce the NR down to the 50% point,, then I turned it on and off, and did not get as noticeable 1 second delay to engage.. And the NR dropped back down to an 8.. Pushed it back up to 100% but did not regain that 9.5 rating.. But turning it off and then back on did the trick.. 

    So it appears that turning it on and off, allows the Algorithm to do its thing more effectively. That is what I found and hopefully others can give this a try.. I think we are just use to increasing and decreasing the level control and expect it to just track, but for me I need to turn the NR off and then On to get the full benefit...  

    I guess as others try this they can share their findings.. Did not do this on SSB stations, this was a S-9 SWL station... 

    OH, still running the 2.**** software...

    Robert
  • Burch - K4QXXBurch - K4QXX Member
    edited May 2019
    I find that sometimes turning off and then back on the WNB also makes a huge difference. 
  • Bill -VA3WTBBill -VA3WTB Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 2019
    I think the effectiveness of the Flex filters are more important to the ham bands and SSB. This is the area the filters need some more work. I would have liked the Yaesu test been done on SSB on signals between stations.
  • k3Timk3Tim Member ✭✭
    edited May 2019
    I tried NR here on the same station as shown in the Yaesu link and had pretty much the same results as the YouTube star. One thing about NR is it will change the audio characteristics a bit so it's best to re-tune the audio equalizer. Tested  again on 9350kc with a s7 to s9 signal and NR knocks the noise + hiss down very effectively. With AGC, BW and SAM, the NR does (and has done) well.  

    Occasionally some impulse noise will be present and NB removes it but these instances are rare. Fortunately never needed WNB here.

    A BoG is a very effective receive antenna and 'ignores' noise. At this stations a hunk of enamel magnet wire was used without the grounds at each end, so it was simple to install.

  • Manuel MasedaManuel Maseda Member
    edited May 2019
    I’m still betting on a 6700 replacement !!
  • Greg SP7QJFGreg SP7QJF Member ✭✭
    edited May 2019
    FRS took 3 years to introduce powerenius xl and is still not available
  • Lucas - W6AERLucas - W6AER Member ✭✭
    edited May 2019
    If it could cover the main ham bands, so let's say up to 23cm and down to 2200m I would put a deposit down today. Although 5/10GHz would be good too given the planned geostationary satellite will be five and dime. Doubt many have a use above 6Ghz but why not!
  • Dave - W6OVPDave - W6OVP Member ✭✭
    edited May 2019

    I'm looking for the new and improved FlexRadio Model 1590. The product of a decade of experience since the ground breaking 1500:

    $999
    25W output
    Single slice with panadapter and waterfall
    Simple remote over WAN
    Single receive input
    SmartSDR limited edition
    No internal tuner
    Mike and CW jacks on FRONT. USB and PWR on back

    It is now a decade later. The new Model 1590 will capture and overrun the SDR market with entry level buyers who will soon be ready to move up the food chain. With careful planning and marketing it will not significantly cannibalize the 6400 but will provide a much more affordable entry step on the FlexRadio ladder. The number of potential FlexRadio buyers will increase exponentially.

    Stamp them out like bottle caps and back up the UPS trucks. Ship 'em out!

    Take my order now? Does the show discount apply?

    -Dave


  • Manuel MasedaManuel Maseda Member
    edited May 2019
    Glad I was wrong. My 6700 will still hold its value for a while longer !!
  • edited May 2019
    Wow the Elecraft K4 looks sweet!!!

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