USB D-STAR BOARD

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• Bob G W1GLV Member ✭✭

  August 2015 edited December 2016

  Peter, it plugs into the radio.

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• Ed.G FlexRadio Employee ✭✭

  August 2015 edited December 2016

  All of the SmartSDR Waveforms are open source along with their corresponding client applications.

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• Peter K1PGV Member ✭✭

  August 2015 edited December 2016

  Thank you, guys.
  
  Well, that IS interesting then (if it plugged into the host "no so much", right?).  
  
  Anyhow, I just ordered one!
  
  ETA:  Apparently the USB device looks like a serial port (running at 460800 baud?) for demodulating the data. This is one of the modes supported by the DVSI chip itself, and the USB to UART interface on the ThumbDV is an FTDI chip. Very simple little device and very clever.  
  
  BTW, the same DVSI chip will also decode MotoTRBO, DMR, and NxDN.  The chip is, unfortunately, not capable of full-rate P25 (P25 Phase I) decoding (it *can* do half-rate, for one channel of P25 Phase II TDMA decoding, however).
  
  Nice!
  
  Peter
  K1PGV

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• Bob G W1GLV Member ✭✭

  August 2015 edited December 2016

  What does NDA stand for?

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• KY6LA_Howard La Jolla, CA. Paris and Sablet FranceMember ✭✭✭

  August 2015 edited August 2015

  Non Disclosure Agreement Everyone working with Alpha Software has signed a non disclosure agreement which prevents us from discussing anything until Flex officially releases the information to the public. Quite often I see leading questions being asked about new features or pending products that are in progress. Unfortunately because of the NDA, they can't be answered even when I know that the answers will make some very unhappy people extremely happy.

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• Marc Lalonde Member

  August 2015 edited August 2015

  Hi since it  AMBE-3000 chip  i assume it may do in future the Yaesu Fusion to ?
  
  VE2OLM  Marc .

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• Lawrence Kellar KB5ZZB Member ✭✭

  August 2015 edited December 2016

  You gotta do what you gotta do

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• Steve-N5AC Community Manager admin

  August 2015 edited December 2016

  Yes it will work with transverters

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• Steve-N5AC Community Manager admin

  August 2015 edited December 2016

  The chip has the codec -- this turns speech into symbols and vice versa.  Then those symbols have to be transmitted over the air.  This becomes a data transmission problem.  So at this point you need a modem that will send the data.  For D-STAR a GMSK modem is used and the data that is sent includes the AMBE codec data along with the callsign data and a low-speed data stream.  
  
  The ThumbDV supports some 60 different rate and type of codec including the one from System Fusion.  We then have to use the same modem and data bits that are used by Yaesu to ensure compatibility.  We'll be looking into this to see what is required to make system fusion work as well.  We do have a lot of other projects under way and so this make take some time.
  
  Also because we are open-sourcing these waveforms, it would be fairly easy for someone that understands System Fusion to add this mode using our D-STAR code as a starting point.  I don't know a lot about their modem yet so I'm not sure what the challenges there will be or even for sure if we'll do it, but we're certainly going to take a look at doing it.

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• Bob G W1GLV Member ✭✭

  August 2015 edited December 2016

  Thanks, Howard

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• Cal N3CAL Member ✭✭

  August 2015 edited November 2016

  I just received my NW ThumbDV today!   wink, wink, nudge, nudge, :-)
  
  

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• Leon Bishop Member

  August 2015 edited August 2015

  Ordered my ThumbDV from Flex.....now to get a xvtr!
  
  

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• rfoust Member ✭✭

  August 2015 edited March 2017

  Received mine yesterday.  Already plugged it in the radio, just waiting for v1.5 now :-)

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• Lawrence Kellar KB5ZZB Member ✭✭

  August 2015 edited February 2017

  I just checked my THUMBDV out and it appears to be the 200k version not the newer 400k version. I know this shouldn't bother us with hooking it up to the Flex, but if you want to try it with WinDV in the mean time this info might be useful. Tnx again for a wonderful product

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• WX7Y Member ✭✭✭

  September 2015 edited June 2020

  Another VHF-UHF AMBE-3000 compatible Mode that would be cool would be NXDN which we use here much more then D-Star because of the far less infrastructure, setup and registering required for Local, Linked, and world wide communications through Kenwood or ICOM commercial VHF and UHF Repeaters and a Raspberry Pi micro computer to control many repeaters on your network. The Kenwood and ICOM equipment are compatible in the 6.25KHz mode and would require transverters or the 6700 2M port of course.
  Bret
  WX7Y
  
  

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• Steve-N5AC Community Manager admin

  September 2015 edited December 2016

  Do you know where to get the modem for this mode (open source)?

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• WX7Y Member ✭✭✭

  September 2015 edited September 2015

  Not sure but I will see if I can find something out, Hope it's open source . Thanks Bret

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• WX7Y Member ✭✭✭

  September 2015 edited September 2015

  Just found this on google search http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/nxdn™-specification-released.354454/ Thanks

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• dlwarnberg Member ✭✭

  September 2015 edited May 2019

  For those of you that have received your ThumbDV did you also upgrade your smartSDR to 1.5 or has that not come out yet?  If it has come out what other changes are in the smartSDR 1.5 software?
  
  Thanks

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• Bill -VA3WTB Member ✭✭✭

  September 2015 edited February 2018

  Dave if your posting here you can see at the top the 1.5 is not released yet.
  

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• rfoust Member ✭✭

  September 2015 edited December 2016

  1.5 isn't out yet.  Should be out sometime in september.
  

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• Kent Hufford Member ✭✭

  November 2015 edited November 2015

  International DSTAR HF Testing Net – Winter Schedule –

  Use your ICOM 9100/7100, or STAR Boarded non ICOM DSTAR HF, or the FLEX 6000 series radios with software 1.5 or better and the DV3000 card.

  Here is some video of DSTAR HF Voice simplex on a 7100

  https://youtu.be/f8_n-zWrdWU

  We routinely have two way communications coast to coast and North to South, South to Canada, Europe and Australia. We have had two way contacts to Japan. And have been heard in South Africa.

  We are on each band only for 5 min. or so as to spend less time, if the band is dead we move on earlier. You can go back to a good freq after the net.
  MONITOR REF030C to coordinate. WE may need to move early or if the freq is busy. We do not want to step on any AM or SSB activity.

  We also use a web page to keep track of who and where we are at -     http://hf.dstar-relay.net/

  You also can check-in to this web site anytime 24/7 to find a DSTAR HF Ham to talk to.

  
  We will have a PRENET for 30 min. before the start of the scheduled time. This PRENET is for ‘FREE FORM” contacts. One should check the web site  http://hf.dstar-relay.net/  sign in and find a working freq to work on. When the net starts at the scheduled time, please join the net and follow the freqs.

  
  DSTAR HF VOICE SCHEDULE
  
  Sat PM 7:00 E (2400Z)
  
  Sunday AM 10:00 E (1500Z Sunday)(Spend more time on each open band, and start on 80m)

  Sunday PM 7:00 E (2400Z)

  Tuesday and Thurs night at 8:30pm E (0130Z Wed and Fri)

  Check USB/LSB on freq to make sure the freq is clear.
  SUNDAY AM, we start with 80m and work towards 6 meters.

  
  h:00 - h:05 6 mtrs 51.180 DV for 5 mins
  
  h:05 - h:10 10 mtrs 29.480 DV for 5 mins
  
  h:10 - h:15 12 mtrs 24.938 DV for 5 mins
  
  h:15 - h:20 15 mtrs 21.380 DV for 5 mins
  
  h:20 - h:25 17 mtrs 18.148 DV for 5 mins
  
  h:25 - h:30 20 mtrs 14.325 DV for 5 mins
  
  h:30 - h:35 40 mtrs 7.285(or another open freq) DV for 5 mins

  h:35 - h:40 75 mtrs 3.880 DV for 5 mins Backup is around 7.300. THIS ALSO APPEARS TO BE AN AM FREQ

  NCS will check the freq ahead of time to make sure we don’t step on anyone 3KC up and DOWN.

  See how to do DSTAR HF with an ICOM at-   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGF-qkdoid4

   "Digital voice is defined in the Commission’s rules as voice (i.e. phone), not data, per Section 97.3(c)(5) of the Rules." Check out the most recent comments by the ARRL:  http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7521063715

  Kent

  KQ4KK

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• Kent Hufford Member ✭✭

  November 2015 edited November 2015

  look farther down in newer replies for the Winter schedule.
  

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