Windows update did it again

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KB4511553 Update renamed the audio drivers on my HP Envy. The DAX IQ drivers were renamed as DAX Audio RX, except one that was renamed as a DAX reserved audio and the DAX TX was renamed. So it's dig into the guts of W10 yet again. 

Such a wonderful radio to be regularly brought to it's knees by the choice of such a horrible Operating System. 

My main laptop won't let Microsoft touch it, but I still have SSDR on the Envy which is W10 Home.

Thank heavens for DogPark and W7.


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Michael N3LI

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Bill -VA3WTB

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Can you control when the update happens. I read were some are completly uninstalling SSDR and DAX,,Cat,,,do the update then re install everything, import profiles and go.
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Joe N3HEE

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With Windows 1903 you can delay the updates.  I have found no matter what you do to prevent the DAX renaming issue Windows will get the names mixed up.  I've tried all the tricks including instructions from Flex with no luck.  Fortunately it only takes a few minutes to fix. Thanks for the heads up on KB4511553.
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And it just did another update, and renamed some other drivers.

I guess it is an endless cycle of either uninstall before updating, or after updating. 

Regardless - this is people's lives if they want to have a Flex Signature series radio and want to run W10.

And this is exactly why I nixed buying 2 6600 radios for our club, because Flex signature series radios are unreliable, and I would be crucified if they went south right before a contest. Since we are getting internet access up there, the malware would install.
The IC-7610 isn't half the radio my 6600 is, but so far, it has started every time we push the power button.
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I can control when it happens to a certain extent, but can't stop it. There is some info online about installing a group policy editor that I'm looking at.  Might be a PITA though, so I might just Nuke it from orbit with editing the registry to see if that cures it.

And I haven't tried the scorched earth right before an update trick. 

The issue as I see it is that I'm not against updates. But having to mess with the registry is just not the sort of thing the standard user should ever have to do. Then when I do actually want to update, it's back to the registry once again.
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It is possible to stop updates by setting the network connection to “Metered” - but of course that only stops updates, doesn’t fix the problem. Any Win10 computer that is exposed to the Internet, and is active on it, should be updated regularly. If, however, you only talk to the radio, and to Flex for updates for radio software, you likely won’t suffer from stopping Windows updates.

My 2 cents worth.
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Yes Bill, I completely uninstall SSDR, DAX and CAT do the update then re install everything, import profiles and works every time.

Just remember to backup your profiles before doing the update!!!
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I've found that it is pretty impossible to predict what is going to happen. Kind of like playing Whack-a-mole, or the old BSA 250 a Friend had years ago with Lucas Electrics. Oh well - pardon the Crankiness, I never had to do this twice in the same day before...
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This works for me most of the time, however, it didn't work for me a few weeks ago when upgrading to 1903.  Took me many hours to fix.
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So, some of you are saying that you can't control when it updates? I thought you can set a setting only allowing an update when your ready for it.

This way when you reinstall Flex SSDR and all the drivers they install just the way Flex wants it.
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Burch - K4QXX

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Windows 10 pro, you can control the updates.  On Windows 10 Home, you don't have near as much functionality in controlling when your computer updates.  You can kill services and do other things but most users don't have that skill set.
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Burch - K4QXX

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I agree.  Shouldn't need to have a computer science degree to run software on a Windows machine.  I hate Windows 10 and I deal with problems at work every time a feature update comes out.  That last one broke the adobe print drivers on some of our tax software.  I feel bad for Flex having to deal with all the issues associated with Windows 10.  Windows 7 end of life is coming up in January so we really don't have a choice on what operating software we use unless we use iOS or Dogpark.   Still need windows to update the radio software.
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Not happy at all about how Microsoft has not addressed this major issue, for how long now?  I am glad to see threads putting blame where it needs to be, right in Microsoft's face.
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I plan to stay with Win 7 for as long as my radio will still work with it long after support is gone. My computer is dedicated to my radio so updates are not needed.
The only reason I can see to ever change over to Win 10 is if and when Flex stopes making drivers compatible with Win 7.
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I wonder what Flex's plans are when Windows 10 become subscription only. It will be a lot of fun to pay every month for the operating system that makes your radio not work.
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Bill -VA3WTB

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And keep in mind Flex is only one out of hundreds of companies that are having Win break things, Microsoft has a big problem here.