Windows 10 Remote Desktop Operation setup

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I can't seem to find the proper combination of the numerous set up parameters to make Windows 10 Pro Remote Desktop work with my Flex 3000.  I can get most everything working ok except the audio.  I get too much noise in the TX audio, and/or, I don't get either the TX or the RX audio through the connection.   ARRRGH!  Can someone who has this setup working send me ALL  of the Remote PC and Local PC settings, as well as, the PowerSDR configuration settings that make this work, please!  73 Pete K5PZ.
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RDP isn’t likely to work well remotely with SmartSDR over slow or latency without choppy audio and display.

I’m not familiar with the 3000, but I’ve found in the 6000’s you must reduce the update frequency to about 3 frames per second. You can also reduce the RDP color density and resolution to minimize bandwidth usage to see how much that helps.

I recall others using TeamViewer and some other remote access solutions, which may be better than RDP.
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I have had problems with Microsoft RDP that have not been present with Google Remote Desktop or TeamViewer.  It seems that even if you set the audio settings in RDP to leave the remote audio alone, it still does something that ends up breaking/disconnecting DAX audio once you disconnect.

This is too bad because RDP has the best quality screen scaling/rendering of the solutions I've tested and feels much more like sitting right in front of a local computer. In fact, I've gotten confused a few times with my local machine not realizing it was actually an RDP session to the shack computer -- I use the same color desktop background, etc. 

It sounds like this is a quirk/oddity with RDP and not a Flex issue, but if there is any interest on Flex's part in testing/debugging RDP with Flex I'd be happy to help as I would prefer it over the other remote desktop solutions for Windows. 

73
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I have been running CW Skimmer/SDR Bridge/DAX control panel v2.1.33 on a remote computer. Everything works fine until I remotely login using RDP. After login the DAX IQ stream stops working. I found it can be recovered by going back to the remote computer console closing and re-starting DAX.

I have also found that starting DAX from RDP shows driver initialization errors in DAX. I am hoping that Flex would look into the compatibility issue. 

Brian W8WD
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Glad your solution was such a simple setup parameter.

The problem that forced me to the hardwire/VOIP solution was DAX instability when routing audio to RDP. I finally used the method I describe above out of frustration after looking for a fix over the course of several days. It's unclear to me at this point if it was DAX, RDP or some other problem with my PC.
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Bob,
I have a question about your comment, "A successful work around for me was to instead wire the speaker out  and ACC Line-In on my 6300 to a USB sound dongle on my station PC." I purchased a pair of USB sound dongles.  The Flex 3000 doesn't have a ACC Line-In, so I made a RJ-45 cable to 3.5MM to connect the front panel microphone input to the sound dongle.  I also connected the rear panel Powered Speaker audio output  over to the dongle.  No joy.  I am unable to configure the software to make my remote pc hear nor talk to the local host/Flex equipment.  How did you configure the audio in PowerSDR and/or the Remote and Local PCs?
Thanks for your time to respond.
Pete
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Pete,

I don't import the sound into the Flex App. It operates separately from the Flex software as a PC to PC VOIP call.

My USB dongle came with a driver which created a new sound device in Windows. I then select that sound device in my VOIP App X-Lite from Counterpath.com.

Skype is a simpler alternative since it's peer to peer not needing a SIP VOIP service company like I use. Using Skype, just make a call from your remote PC to the host PC.

73!
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Hi Bob,
Thanks for your reply.  OK, so I tried to set up SKYPE.  I am at wits end.  I can't make that work either. I have a USB sound dongle on the local station PC.  I set up SKYPE to work with it. I connected the 3000's front panel mic input to the dongle's speaker jack. I connected the audio output jack on the rear panel of the 3000 to the dongle's microphone jack. I set up SKYPE on the station PC to auto-answer when I call from the remote. I can hear rec audio, but TX audio doesn't work.....interestingly the same problem I have with Windows Desktop Remote.  I do have the 3000's mixer set to microphone.  Suggestions?
Pete
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Pete,

In the Windows Control Panel at the radio PC, select "Sound". Check both Playback & Recording tabs to verify audio is registering for both audio in & out.

Unfortunately I have no experience with Flex hardware or software pre-6xxx so if you have audio in the "Sound" panel, maybe others with that equipment can be of help.

If no audio registers in the Sound dialog, it's probably levels. If not, I'd Google Skype to troubleshoot that.

73
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Richard McClelland, AA5S

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Maybe this new RDP client will work better for Flex remote than the old one does:

https://betanews.com/2018/04/02/microsoft-remote-desktop-html5-web-client-preview/
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Thanks Richard for your note.  I looked at the new RDP client description.  Installing it is totally waaay beyond my pay grade ability.   :^)
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Yes, you're right.  That is a mess of a set-up, not many hams have Windows 2016 servers installed in their shacks.  Hopefully Microsoft will get that cleaned up a bit before they release it as production code.
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