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Will Maestro click-tune with a mouse?

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Jerry W4UK
Jerry W4UK Member ✭✭
edited June 2020 in FLEX-6000 Signature Series

I haven't seen this mentioned, and I don't see any provision for plugging a mouse into Maestro (no USB port labels in the photos). Will Maestro click-tune with a mouse? Perhaps finger-pointing tune is available, but I doubt that would provide much precision.


Jerry

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  • Jim Gilliam
    Jim Gilliam Member ✭✭
    edited June 2020
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    Maybe Bluetooth can be programmed to accept a mouse.
  • Bob-N4HY
    Bob-N4HY Company Adviser
    edited September 2018
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    I believe a machine learning algorithm can train an AI to pick the most likely signal and out the filter on it.
  • Bob - W7KWS -
    Bob - W7KWS - Member ✭✭
    edited February 2018
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    Got to have mouse click tune. I mentioned this to one of the Flex guys in their booth @ Dayton. He noted my comment in his notebook. This meant to me that he thought it was worth consideration. He mentioned Bluetooth was a possible way for connecting a mouse.
  • Walt - KZ1F
    Walt - KZ1F Member ✭✭
    edited March 2017
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    Gerald made the statement on here that the hardware was pretty much baked at this point, no wiggle room there. My understanding is the whole point of that form factor is capacitive touch, like an iPhone, iPad, Nexus, etc etc. I suspect how that would work is double tap for freq and slide for precision pointing.
  • Bob G W1GLV
    Bob G W1GLV Member ✭✭
    edited December 2016
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    I have a Bluetooth mouse, works very well.
  • Jim Gilliam
    Jim Gilliam Member ✭✭
    edited May 2015
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    Does your Bluetooth mouse have a USB dongle or do you connect directly to you computer Bluetooth?

    Jim, K6QE

  • Jim Gilliam
    Jim Gilliam Member ✭✭
    edited May 2019
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    I think Flex should have canvased the opinion of the Flex owners before "baking" the hardware. I really hate getting my sweaty finger prints and buggars all over the screen.

    Jim, K6QE

  • Tim - W4TME
    Tim - W4TME Administrator, FlexRadio Employee admin
    edited December 2016
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    That is exactly how it works that way today
  • Jerry W4UK
    Jerry W4UK Member ✭✭
    edited September 2015
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    Perhaps those (legacy radio?) contesters that were consulted were not familiar with click-tuning, so didn't ask for mouse functionality.

    Like you, I suspect that if Flex users/contesters had been asked, most would have placed mouse (and perhaps Flexcontrol) support very high on Maestro's wish list.

    I think I speak for MANY Flex users/contesters when I ask that Flex rejigger the hardware design of Maestro to include two USB ports. And they should be full sized ports, not those mini/micro thingies that require the adapter I lost last week.

    The mouse could even be a special Flex option model if necessary to simplify driver interfacing.

    Jerry

  • Ned K1NJ
    Ned K1NJ Member ✭✭
    edited December 2016
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       Maybe one of the knobs can be configured to control the tuning cursors.
    Touch tuning a couple of slices precisely will be awkward.

    Ned,  K1NJ
  • Jay Nation
    Jay Nation Member ✭✭
    edited August 2016
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    Would a touch screen stylus possibly work with the Maestro displays? The pointed tip of a stylus might be a little more accurate as pointing device than my grubby **** fingertip.

    Jay - NO5J
  • Greg
    Greg Member ✭✭
    edited April 2019
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    Is there any definitive response to this question?  Will a Bluetooth mouse work for click tuning with Maestro?  And, will Maestro's BT connect to multiple BT devices at the same time?  I can see this being handy for mouse+headphones, 2x headphones in a contest.....etc.

    Thanks
    Greg
  • Norm - W7CK
    Norm - W7CK Member ✭✭
    edited February 2017
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    I don't want to have to pick up a stylus every time I want to change something on the screen, but I would like to use the MOUSE just like I do currently.   The darn MOUSE as well as the FlexControl should have been engineered to work with the Maestro exactly the same way they work on my laptop or home computer. 
  • Tim - W4TME
    Tim - W4TME Administrator, FlexRadio Employee admin
    edited December 2016
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    We are not planning on supporting a pointing device (mouse) with Maestro.  It is being designed as a touchscreen application.
  • Greg
    Greg Member ✭✭
    edited September 2015
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    Thanks for the update Tim.  I tried using a touch screen for tuning with SSDR and it is horribly inaccurate.  You have to try to "roll" your finger to get it close to the right place.
  • Gerald-K5SDR
    Gerald-K5SDR FlexRadio Employee ✭✭
    edited December 2016
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    Maestro is designed for touch.  SmartSDR is not.  I am touch tuning whenever I demo.  I can demo how to run the entire radio in under one minute.  With touch, there is nothing to pick up or grab.  It is much faster than any other method I have ever used.  
  • Bob - W7KWS -
    Bob - W7KWS - Member ✭✭
    edited December 2016
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    Gerald,

    I trust what you say here but easy touch tuning is difficult to visualize given my experience using touch on a tablet.  On the tablet, I'd have to zoom in very tight to accurately tune to any signal.  CW is particularly difficult.  Tight zoom makes monitoring a large portion of the band a problem.  Big fingers I guess.  With my Bluetooth mouse & mouse wheel I can quickly tune with the entire band on the display. 

    A video from you with some tips would help a lot.

    Thanks

  • Gerald-K5SDR
    Gerald-K5SDR FlexRadio Employee ✭✭
    edited December 2016
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    I find that I can touch tune with the finger to the selected step size and quickly fine tune with the tuning knob.  I usually set SSB to 500 Hz step and can hit dead on most of the time.  It is the best of both worlds.  I can demo how to run the entire radio in 30-60 seconds from start to finish.  Have it a hundred times or so now.   It is easier to learn and use than any radio I have ever owned or seen.  We will probably do a video soon that shows how to run the radio with Maestro in 60 seconds or less. I did it for one of our UK distributors, Waters & Stanton who visited us in Austin on Monday and they did a video that they may post on their website.
  • Simon Lewis
    Simon Lewis Member ✭✭
    edited September 2015
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    direct BT connection

    http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/arc-touch-mouse

  • Greg
    Greg Member ✭✭
    edited September 2015
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    Thanks Gerald. It will be interesting to see. I have a difficult time visualizing how it can be faster than a dedicated mouse that can be positioned directly next to the keyboard being used for logging. Ergonomically it is less movement than having to lift your hand and reach to the screen and then the knob.
  • Greg
    Greg Member ✭✭
    edited September 2015
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    By the way, I'm not saying or implying that touch tuning is bad. It just seems that it would be quicker and ergonomically less stressful making multiple movements to the mouse than it would be to the screen in the heat of a busy contest. Take a couple of hours and move your hand from the keyboard up to the screen than the knob then back to the keyboard a few hundred times and then do it again but only having to rotate your wrist or a slight movement of your arm from the keyboard to a mouse and back and you will see what I mean.
  • Jim Gilliam
    Jim Gilliam Member ✭✭
    edited September 2015
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    The touch screen is a necessity for something like an iPhone or an iPad. But the Maestro, will not be a hand held device as much as it will be a table device and I would much prefer using a mouse. However, I will come to my final decision after I wipe all the oil and sweat from my screen.


    Jim, K6QE

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