I am not pleased. FLEX should supply the necessary adapter at no cost.
They also have years of successful field experience with the modular on other FRS models, so rather expect they will have selected a decent grade connector for the Maestro.
FRS has offered an adaptor for years - and lists a "Mic conversion cable for FMH-1-8P (8-pin Foster) to RJ45" as a Maestro accessory. (Like you I want to use some of other microphones with a Maestro as well.)
That's the never-ending problem. Can't please everyone. I can't say I'm fond of the RJ45, although I do have some mics with them already. Heck, I had to make an adapter for my boom mic. And some of my other mics have different pinouts. But I'm a Ham, and know how to do that kind of stuff.
There are so many options for using a Mike with the Maestro
The Maestro comes with two Mike Ports - RJ-45 and a 3.5mm TRRS
But you can also use a Bluetooth Mike and, of course, you can also use the 8-Pin Foster and the Balanced Mike inputs atyour 6000 Series.,
If you have the Flex Hand Mike you can order a RJ-45 Adapter cable
If you are using a RadioSport Headset you can order a TRRS Adapter cable with right angle connectors so you wont have stress issues from connecting in the back of the Maestro
I have had superb audio reports using Apple Ear buds that came free with my iPhone.. and a 3.5mm TRRS to dual TRS splitter that I found on Amazon for $6
Instead of rallying to the defense of Flex and their decisions why not join in with the question? The real answer might be pretty interesting and educational. I would be interested in why Flex didn't use the same connector they already use on the the radio? Why did Flex select an RJ-style connector which really is not a technically ideal choice for a microphone connector? What advantage does the RJ-45 provide over the 8-pin already in place on the radio for Flex? What advantage does Flex see in it for the customer?
Steve- I don't have any problems with fanboy comments but am sorry that you miss the whole point of my posts. There aren't many other ways to indicate the concern here is not about technical choices or standards, but the care and feeding of the emerging 6000 product line, and, of it's paying customers. (>They need to have some ownership in station setup...)
The thought that a customer would voluntarily add another major item in an emerging Premium product line and then have to buy a different microphone (or adapter) than one that was already purchased for that same product line in order to compensate for some design hiccup along the way is hilarious on its face. It's the sort of thing that technical lore and joke books are made of. (Most of us with serious experience have great stories to tell.)
But it does raise questions about who is in charge of what? Where is this product line going? Is anyone really watching the store? Potential competition is watching for sure, and making decisions based on what it sees. Regards. -Dave.
You are right, since it totally misses the point of this thread.
>Looking over my shoulder at my secondary operating position
Looking over my shoulder at 4 new stations, Kenwood, Yaesu, Elecraft and FLEX I see 4 different mike connectors. But again, that isn't the point of this thread is it?
The subject of this thread goes in the Technical Product Jokebook in the Chapter titled: But Boss, the plug don't fit no more!
Personally, I don't have a preference in mic connectors, but to NOT include a $5 adapter in the box with a $1000 accessory seems a bit cheap to me.
Carry on, guys.....
Regarding Fan Boy: Merriam-Webster Definition of fanboy
: a boy or man who is an extremely or overly enthusiastic fan of someone or something. First used in 1919.
But with all the fuss and feathers the original question by Mike in the very top line still hasn't been officially answered has it? I believe that is what we are all waiting around for:
"Why did FlexRadio decide to go with a RJ45 microphone connector for Mic1 on the Maestro?"
Maybe there really is a good reason. If so, I must have missed it.
I would conjecture it was due to SMT versus hand soldering. Consider producing, say 500 units. With all external connectors solder directly to the PWB, the boards are ready to go. With a 8 pin foster, a skilled tech has to cut / strip / solder 5? wires to the PWB as well as the connector. Think about that task closely compared to a pure SMT build (where pure means all solder mounted components). The time savings for the hypothetical pile of 500 units is rather large, let alone possibility of a bad solder connection.
Who hasn't built a QRP kit radio with "100" wire leads going to controls / jacks and found what a pain that was to deal with and also making a mess of the pretty PWB?
Tim has mentioned unplugging the RJ 45 cable from the one supplied with your 6000 series radio. I have tried this with a very flexible ethernet cable that wassupplied with a wireless router. Said cable is 3 feet (about 1 meter), flat and very flexible. It looks like it will work well. His (Tim) other comment about using a small headset is on target.
Be cool / be calm....
Having experienced RJ failures, and after reading of others (e.g., Flex-3000 connector separation) I was puzzled by their choice. I greatly enjoy using my Flex-5000 and Flex-6700 radios, and I wish FRS every success with the Maestro. I'm looking forward to receiving mine....and soon, I hope!
After looking again at the Maestro front and back photos - and giving it more thought - I suspect the connector location - on the rear panel, lower right side, may have been one factor in their decision. I'm thinking any coiled-corded mic attached to that location would have a tendency to pull the unit forward from the (operator's) left side. A Foster connector at that location would also project further to the rear - increasing the lever moment and worsening the tendency, while possibly stressing the board if soldered directly. Perhaps FRS was thinking more along the lines of a flat flexible cable, or thin round one from a headset, etc, that would make the 180 degree turn around to the front more gracefully.
Whatever their reasons, I'm sure it was an informed decision. Maybe one day we'll know for sure.
FRS must, however, proactively inform Maestro purchasers that the Flex-6xxx hand microphone will require an adapter. I suggest they toss one in for free (or offer it at cost) for Maestro buyers who purchase(d) a foster-style mic from FRS. With RadioShack gone, some folks might have trouble finding a male Foster to build their own adapter in short order.
Mike - KB1MH
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