NN4ZZ shows them below the waterfall:
A new version of NaP3 is available that integrates the spots with the spectrum display:
Which do you prefer?
73 Ed W2RF
The reason for my preference to display the spots below the spectrum or waterfall rather than up in the spectrum part of the display is to keep the spectrum from being cluttered. Between the signals of varying amplitude and the slice flag the spectrum is full already. This would be more of an issue on a busy band, during a dxpedition pileup or contest.
On a related note, with all of these options "display persistence" is really a necessity. Users should be able to select what they want to see (and NOT see) by mode. And using persistence, the system should remember the setting. Some examples:
- Panadapter spectrum only
- Panadapter spectrum and waterfall
- Panadapter spectrum, and live spots (spots below the panadapter spectrum display)
- Panadapter spectrum, waterfall, and live spots
- Panadapter spectrum, waterfall, and Skimmer (for CW mode)
- Panadapter spectrum , waterfall, Skimmer, and live spots (for CW mode)
Regarding the last example, color coding could indicate when a call sign is from Skimmer or a Live Spot.
Options and Persistence should give everyone the display they want, for the mode they use.
Regards, Al / NN4ZZ
al (at) nn4zz (dot) com
I've been lobbying for this feature for years. This single feature would sell a boat load of SDRs to the contest crowd.
Since I find it easier to find weak signals using the waterfall, the tendency here is to reduce the Panadapter real estate to a minimum while maintaining sufficient slice flag information.
Adding the spot information below the waterfall vertically oriented as Al has represented would be perfect. However persistence would be a must and having the ability to turn on/off or resize the spot display would be welcomed.
I think even this method during a very crowded contest condition or pileup could get a little messy
I prefer in the waterfall. Reason: On a crowded split DX pile-up for example, the display persistence in CW Skimmer allows for easily matching the call sign with the signal. The reference point is right at the persistence trail. I'm afraid that ability will be lost if moved to the spectrum where peaks are constantly changing. Sure, it looks nice up there with a lot of screen real estate, but I think tracking accuracy will be lost.
During a split DX Operation, it may not be so cluttered, dependent on how rare the station is.
I like Al's (NN4ZZ) post with the calls vertical below the waterfall best, and definitely want the persistence as Al described. But, if push came to shove, I'd adapt to what ever the contesters agreed upon.... Because at the end of the day, if we want to grow the flex ranks that's the group we need to work with....
It sounds like you folks have been asking for this feature for a while. I'm new here but my Flex 6300 is going to be my backup rig until I have something that approximates my Yaesu with NaP3. I also would like white shading under the spectrum trace as an option.
Preference, to reduce eye and mouse motion plus save screen real estate, in panadapter rotated text as in the mock up above.
Work flow is critical for 12 hour shifts. FlexControl - Left Hand, Mouse - Right Hand, Keyboard - No hands if possible. Right thumb can flick the enter key without taking it away from the mouse.
Need a way to click a call sign, populate a text line between panadapter and waterfall, click fields to populate the contest logger. Trying to imagine voice workflow without constant left hand motion. Phonetics to text? Perhaps that's why I'm a CW op at heart.
An aside: Oh I would like to have antenna systems that would give me this choice.
When running in a contest I like to keep my panadapter quite narrow, say 1-2 KHz as stuff outside my operating range is totally unnecessary and incurs useless processing overhead. In search mode I look at spectrum parts to see the colour of the spots, then expand that area. Alternately sort the spots by beam direction and work an area. The latter has the slice move to that area.
Only when picking a frequency to run would a wide view of the band be useful, and then the general colour of the spots is important, not each individual entry. Clutter is not important in this phase.
Spots in the panadapter is still my (very personal, without prejudice) choice.
Nothing says it cannot be an option. When there are multiple valid reasons for options, then it is wise to make those options selectable. (Must be my Canadian upbringing).
Regards to all opinions.
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