What would cause the baseline to be curved?

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As Tim once said...

The cool thing about a panadapter is you can see things.  It is also the curse.

I think for years I tuned across what I thought were "birdies" and I figured they were artifacts of my radio.  Now I get to see what they look like and I have no idea what they are often.

I'm curious what would cause the effect below and if it is to be expected.  I am using an end-fed wire antenna.  I have no tuner engaged, I'm sure my ground is less than optimal.

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Simon Lewis

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will be a different resonances point on the antenna vs frequency ... You can see it on my Hex beam if you look wide enough ..
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I'll agree with Simon.  The peaks or humps is where the antenna is resonant, the valleys are areas where the antenna is less resonant.

I have a ZS6BKW that shows these waves really well.  When you zoom out and take a look at several MHz, it is evident where the antenna is resonant.  Pretty cool.

Its great being able to SEE the spectrum now.  It gives us a whole new perspective as to what is going on. 
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Sergey, R5AU

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Mark, you can use any RF network analyser and can see the same base line curve that reflecting you antenna system :  Antenna+Cable+"if any exist" 
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Maybe you tried a Center-Fed Antenna with a Balun might give you a flat noise floor.

I use a Palomar Balun Cube in shack as well as one at Antenna feed to reduce Currents 
on Outside braid grounds 

Ground Rods with Shack, Antenna, Electrical at Junction Box all bonded together directly 

Really helps a lot here 

Also hope your RF pre-amp gain is not set too high. See some possible mix products on Spectrum plot
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I too agree with Simon.  It is the resonance characteristics of your antenna.  This does not indicate anything is wrong with the antenna, it just has a low resonance point.
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Thanks all.   Duh... I should have considered resonance.    The EF wire does have a small matching network at the feed point.

I do plan to get a full ATU but that will have to wait a while.

Thanks for the links.   The RFI I am aware of and slowly when I have time trying to track it down.  RF is at 0.

The interesting thing about this baseline thing is that it is not always like that.  Some times it is flatter which makes me think something is changing.

This is the only antenna I can put up and keep hidden until the parity act goes through then I'll put up a 2000' tower with stacked beams!  (just kidding).

Thanks all!