SSDR 1.2 - WOW!

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Just watched the SSDR 1.2 YouTube video. Oh. My. Gawd. Beautiful. Looking forward to playing with it soon.
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George Molnar, KF2T, Elmer

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Jim Gilliam

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Could you supply the URL so the rest of us can enjoy it?
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Jim Gilliam

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Al / NN4ZZ

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Looking great!

Regards, Al / NN4ZZ  
al (at) nn4zz (dot) com
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Al / NN4ZZ

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Still Hoping to see CW Skimmer at the bottom some day.....That would be a game changer!

Regards, Al / NN4ZZ  
al (at) nn4zz (dot) com


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Sergey, R5AU

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looking forward for this
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Carl/K5HK

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They were running cw skimmer on two other slices on another monitor from the 6700 at IDX....  Glad I have 3 monitors running here should I decide to use them all for radio!
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Greg

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If flex provided a way to minimize a panadapter it would ease resources on the video card and take up less room. When running skimmer server and having it send decoded spots to a telnet port there would be no reason to keep the associated panadapters visible.

73
Greg
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Michael - N5TGL

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Very happy to see the panafall coming earlier rather than later.  This is going to be very helpful for contests...would have been nice for WPX last weekend!!
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Ken - NM9P, Elmer

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Yes! I watched it last night and am very excited. Nicely done!
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Robbie - KI4TTZ

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Nice, love it!
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Ernest - W4EG

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This is really a game changer!

WOW...I like what I saw... THANKS

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Thom Baxter

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Way to go,  I'm really looking forward to it!  Any idea of possible release date to the public?
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W4EY

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Matt:
Will this Waterfall replace the DM-780 or FlDigi external software. The waterfall looks great but will we be able to select Digital or RTTY without external software??
Bill  W4EY
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Robert -- N5IKD, Elmer

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Even if Flex integrates some digital modes such as RTTY and DV Voice, I would always continue to use external software because there are hundreds of modes and these developers who are working on these modes can make tweaks every day because that is all they are doing. I think we are better off allowing most digital modes in the hands of third party developers.

Microsoft and Apple both have great operating systems, and they each supply a working browser, but I prefer to use a third-party browser from developers who can better concentrate on making a great browser.
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Robert, this is our opinion as well.  Anything that it integrated in the digital world will fall behind what you can get through thrid-party applications.  We really want them ultimately to write their software to our API so that it works seamlessly without the need for CAT or DAX.  That is the way it should be done.
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I totally agree. But I have found other software authors may not be so willing. I talked with Laurent of TRXMgr and he was willing...I put him in touch with Steve and Lorie who sent him the info packet. He reviewed and signed it then there was something else to sign....he gave up. He has never seen so much legal mumble jumble just to support a radio. Its a shame too because he does great work. I also got a response from one of the N1MM team members who is working on rig support in the re-write. His response was what will the API allow him to do that a CAT interface won't. So it looks like no support their either.
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Greg
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We've been inundated with requests and response to the requests has been varied.  For some folks, we've been very quick and had them the info and had the whole process done in just a couple of days and for others, their paperwork has shown up when we were very busy and it's taken longer to get back to them.  We really are trying our best to try and get the details in everyone's hands.  

From a support perspective, we have an area in this community for the API and we are responding quickly to developers here and we are also addressing questions as they come to us directly, although we often encourage folks to bring the conversation to the community where everyone can see the question and answers.   

If you know of someone that feels like they are not getting info from us, please have them contact me and I'll help them. 
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Absolutely incredible with the waterfall!  I had never looked back when I made the original purchase and this update along with everything else that has been done previously just reinforced my original decision.  Keep em coming FRS, keep em coming!!
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This looks GREAT.  My Radio with all the Knobs can not do this...   FLEX  GREAT JOB.
Bill W4EY
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Steve - M3SXA

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"Not all features are available on all models" has me slightly worried with my 6500....
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The 6500 does not have as much processing power in the CPU, DSP and FPGA as does the 6700.  Therefore the 6700 has more signal processing capability.  The 6700 is also the equivalent of two 6500s in that it has two full performance independent direct sampling receive signal chains.  This will allow features that are not possible on a 6500.  The 6700 also does 2m IF along with some other hardware differences.  You simply can't expect the 6500 to do everything that a 6700 can do - otherwise they would cost the same.
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So by that comment I assume it won't be available on the 6500 which I can live without, as the radio stands and have wrote about elsewhere it has allowed me to hear and work stations in countries I have never heard before let alone make contact with so am happy as it is.
:-)
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Waterfall will be on both models but the 6700 will have a couple more zoom levels than the 6500.  This is because we have more resources in the FPGA on the 6700.
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Steve - M3SXA

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Sounds good Gerald, tnx's for the update :-)
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FLEX:

Will this new SDR 1.2 Waterfall replace the DM-780 or FlDigi external Digital software?

This waterfall looks great but will we be able to select Digital on one slice and RTTY on another slice without using HRD/Fldigi external software??
Bill  W4EY

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Gerald Youngblood

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Bill you can certainly use multiple slices different external digital software through DAX.  You do have to use external software for decoding.   
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Gerald:

Thanks. When using external digital software (i.e. DM780 or Fldigi) will a frequency selected on the external waterfall conflict with the new FLEX waterfall frequency?  Conflict such as the Frequency selected on the FLEX vs the Frequency selected on the external waterfall...Example: I tune the Flex to 14.070.00 for Digital or RTTY and then can operate using the external waterfall frequency at other 14.070.000 and up selected frequencies. When SDR 1.2 is released we will have a new FLEX waterfall and the external application waterfall. Will there be a operating frequency conflict??

Bill

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Gerald Youngblood

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There should not be a conflict but Tim can answer better than me.  They should be synchronized through CAT.
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What Bill is speaking of is digital mode click tune frequency offsets to compensate for the ASFK audio offset. This feature will probably be included in the set of feature included when we enhance digital mode operation. That is currently not scheduled in the SmartSDR v1.2 release.

You can however click tune on the waterfall display just like you can on the Panadapter to tune signals.
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Tim:
Thanks. That answers my question.
Bill W4EY
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Looks great.  Lovely color.  I'm just not sure exactly what functionality it provides.  I'm assuming its easier to see signals across a waterfall rather than trying to pick them out of a panadapter.  Are there any other benefits that I'm just not seeing or understanding here?  Don't get me wrong, I love what is being done with SmartSDR. 

Can someone from Flex tell us what FIXES have been addressed in v1.2

Norm - KL7RS
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Hi Norm,
Others may have different perspectives, but I enjoy the waterfall as a way to get a snapshot of band activity over time. Fading, noise, and activity become easier to interpret with the addition of the time element. Plus, the intensity is easier to view (IMHO) as a function of color and intensity. 

Absolutely love the idea of a "scroll back" waterfall. Great idea when trying to pick out signals on previous transmissions and pounce on the next opportunity!

Not a big fan of the waterfall for SSB, but where I live on CW and digital, it's a big help. It does help more than the live pan adapter for adjusting the filters really tight.
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It is also very helpful on weak signal bands, dying and fading bands, and noisy bands to help visually discriminate signals from noise over time and see when there may only be a few signals active.
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Helps a lot to -identify- the digital mode and tune properly.
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Norm S

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FB on helping to tune the digital modes.  Scrolling back in time and replaying could be useful.

Norm - KL7RS
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I always found it of use early on a morning when the bands were just coming alive - you could see the distant stations before you could hear them.  So I would sit and stalk and always had a good chance of catching something rare before the crowd with the dials alone got them.

As the 5000 is now living a second life with a new owner - I have been waiting for this with great anticipation.   Time to get my stalking hat ready!
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Norm

If you have not used the 5k, 3k, or 1.5k then you really cannot appreciate the usefulness of the waterfall.
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Wow, it would be great to be able to SAVE the last 10 minute snapshot.  There have been many times I wish I had a snapshot of what just happened or what I just heard.

Any idea if the last 10 minutes can be saved in a file and recalled later on?

Norm - KL7RS
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Norm S

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My 6700 is the first SDR rig I've owned so I have not had much of an opportunity to use PowerSDR with the older rigs to see the waterfall.  I'm learning on this one as I go.  Thanks for the responses.  I guess I'll just have to play with it a bit to see how much I'll use it.  I love the waterfall in DM780 and some of the other digital processing software.  I'm sure after I get 1.2 loaded and have been playing with it a while I'll get hooked and find I won't be able to live without it! hihi..
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PowerSDR  has the capability of making IQ recording at 192 KHz for the 5000. Playing back the recording is unlike listening in real time in that you get the audio, panorama and waterfall. It is wonderful!

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Awrsome
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Okay, now I understand.  This is going to be pretty cool....  Now all I have to do is figure out how to wait until the end of the month!

Norm - KL7RS
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Then ,of course, there is the obvious benefit of more easily finding an opening on a busy Band when using Panafall and with proper delay and bandwidth adjustments the ability to recognize the presence of very very weak, and many times inaudible, signals.  However, its obvious also, that ymmv.

 

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Does anyone know any of the bug fixes or other enhancements that will be addressed in v1.2?

Norm - KL7RS 
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I don't know specifics about other bug fixes, but you are going to like the changes and improvements they made to the APF (Audio Peaking Filter) and the "Add Slice" function, especially if you do a lot of split frequency operation and CW DXing. 
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It's getting near the end of the month, so I'm starting to click "refresh" on the forum more often, hoping I'll see the new release posted. :-)  I assume it will probably be posted on the last day of the month though.
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Robbie, we figured it was worth working to the end of the month and packing in as many features and fixes as we could.  So this is what we did -- we are feature complete at this point and are just fixing issues.  I expect we'll release right around the last day of the month at this point.
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Jim Gilliam

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When one buys a 6000 series Flex Radio, Christmas comes twice maybe three times a year!
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Ken - NM9P, Elmer

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Actually, about 4 times a year, according to the roadmap!
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Robbie - KI4TTZ

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Thanks Steve, that's kinda what I figured.  Ok I'll stop clicking refresh every hour and get back to work at my day job. ;-)
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Richard Clafton W4/G7EIX, Elmer

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A little birdie told me this weekend gone that we may get a few Easter goodies in the release at the end of the month.    Seeing as the Waterfall work is done - a couple of little extras from the roadmap down the road may be included.   Like I said, a little birdie who shall remain nameless.  But he could have been pulling my leg! :-)  
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Dave - WB5NHL

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I hear the beta is in good shape and the deadline is to have everything polished for Dayton..... can't really blame Flex for wanting to show the latest and greatest for Dayton. Increased sales benefits all of us!
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Steve - N5AC, VP Engineering

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We planned at the outset for SmartSDR to do roughly quarterly releases so January-end was our last and April-end is the end of a quarter's worth of work.  So we'll have v1.2 out a month before Dayton which starts on 5/16 this year.
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Richard Clafton W4/G7EIX, Elmer

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Which makes up for those of us who cannot make Dayton this year - work stops play once again.    Can't wait!   Loved the demo that Tim gave me at RARS this past weekend.   He refused to put a copy on my USB key!