SmartSDR v1.6 video

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I ran across this video on YouTube, which deals with digital modes enhancements in SSDR v1.6:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV0kDWdFswc

Any rumors on the contesting enhancements that he mentions?
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First Chris did an amazing job on that video with his mind blowing use of multiple slices to do multiple simultaneous digital modes as well as demonstrate the power of full Duplex in working multiple digital contacts at the same time.

More important it shows how much SIMPLER it has become to utilize digital modes with Flex radios.  What is really impressive is that you no longer need all sorts of external boxes and complex cabling like we did in the old days for digital modes.

@Burt
It you really wanted to show Ham Radio via WAN it is very easy to do with an iPad and a VPN or any laptop and VPN.  I have already demoed remote operations in my Grandkid's classrooms.  The kids were especially fascinated to see the pan-adapters and the ability to click on a screen and talk to people....

Even more fun were a couple of School to Space Station Contact events that I participated in... really got the kids involved with figuring out questions to ask....  You could try to get your schools on the Space Station Contact Schedules...

FYI  - Just got a tornado warning.....real weather for once...
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Glad you are enjoying the rain we shipped down from Vancouver (BC) but you can keep the tornado, if you please.  Sent with a true Canadian "sorry".  p.s. this is OT but then who cares?
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First real rain after 4 year drought.. some thunder... another first.... no close lightning .

Then our cell phones started to alarm with my first ever Tornado Warning...

We live in a mostly glass house (I don't throw stones) so we have nowhere in the house that we could shelter .which was not near a window if a tornado came close...

Now massive flooding everywhere in the city...my outside drainage system was overwhelmed with the rain..my extra pool pumps are running to pump it down the hill.....so far 2.58" today on my rain gauge... which is a heck of a lot when you consider that the normal ANNUAL rainfall is only 9" a YEAR....

With the 4 year drought my water usage was down over 50% ... so the City is increasing our water rates by 40% to cover fixed costs... go figure.. it would have been cheaper to use more water... currently paying more for water than Power....

Today there is so much water than they had to open the dams to let it drain away... I guess the drought may be over...

Here is a picture that my neighbor Rob WA3IHV took of his horse and dog in the rain...


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Howard, just keep in mind, one rain, even a heavy one, does not a multi-year drought break. Do you recall the IR pictures of CA? The entire state is almost beet red. Is it almonds that the valley farmers have drained your aquifers for? No, not almonds....hmmm senior moment.
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It's rained since Monday. It will rain for the rest of the week. The snowpack in the mountains where get most of our water is nearing full. The reservoirs are 110%nfull already. Remember we get only 9" of rain in a good year so our water systems are very efficient.

The drought is likely over.

FYI. First serious rain ever on the new roof we put on in 2011.

BTW. The color of California is mostly brown from years of no rain dead plants and dead grass.

You can see what is happening at wx.ky6la.com

BTW. Having lived in places with real weather I definitely prefer no weather.
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There have been specials on it. I was referring to the, I think, NOAA satellites measuring ground water. Whatever that nut is, that takes like 4 gal per nut the farmers are drilling into the aquifer and just pumping it dry and they are competing against each other to get the most water out. Time will tell on the drought. The North East isn't as know for 'real' weather as the south east but I bet you never went out swimming as the eye  of a hurricane pasted over. Now that is real weather. Again, not as real as hurricanes passing over the cape (Hatteras) or some of the cities they destroyed in Fl.
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KY6LA --> "BTW. The color of California is mostly brown from years of no rain dead plants and dead grass. "

It's not brown but golden, hence the golden state.

Trying to capture on film or digital a golden field of grass illuminated by the setting sun is an impossible feat.
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Howard if LAN  is so easy to setup why is Flex working on 2.0?
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Because 2.0 frees you from having a PC or equivalent at both ends of a remote. WAN.
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Those RAF chaps who flew over the Middle East will tell you like it was like a map after 1948...brown over Egypt and green over Israel.

Isn't it us British who are supposed to be famous for talking about the weather?
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Ken NM9P,
If you have the video expertise or whoever decides to pick up the quest
(not I) I would certainly think it essential that a training / demo video be made
showing a simple "basic" DAX setup and use, less the extremes that are now possible
that the advanced user is pretty much already aware of now in this recent K6OZY video.
btw: Chris' video couldn't be any more dead on perfect. Thank you Chris.
But, an ultra simple "basic" DAX setup video (RTTY, JT, etc) to get on the air fast and furious aimed at the newcomer who may be on the fence and mind is still set to legacy radio mode.
"We" already think this way, this is to bring in the rest of the flock so to speak.

I too am blown away at the simplicity of DAX in V1.6.
To me DAX was already simple compared to legacy interfacing but now
this has seriously been simplified much further...
Next step? The stage has certainly been set for Maestro...

Congrats to the Flex staff, excellent product!
I'm just happy to be here taking it all in...
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Ken NM9P,
If you have the video expertise or whoever decides to pick up the quest
(not I) I would certainly think it essential that a training / demo video be made
showing a simple "basic" DAX setup and use, less the extremes that are now possible
that the advanced user is pretty much already aware of now in this recent K6OZY video.
btw: Chris' video couldn't be any more dead on perfect. Thank you Chris.
But, an ultra simple "basic" DAX setup video (RTTY, JT, etc) to get on the air fast and furious aimed at the newcomer who may be on the fence and mind is still set to legacy radio mode.
"We" already think this way, this is to bring in the rest of the flock so to speak.

I too am blown away at the simplicity of DAX in V1.6.
To me DAX was already simple compared to legacy interfacing but now
this has seriously been simplified much further...
Next step? The stage has certainly been set for Maestro...

Congrats to the Flex staff, excellent product!
I'm just happy to be here taking it all in...
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Like so many others, I thought you did a wonderful job on the video and I found it very educational.  I actually watched it a few times hoping it would sink in a bit......

Question:  I'm currently using HRD for logging.  The one problem I have is when adding an entry into the Logbook, it only populates the frequency, mode etc., from slice A.   Is there a way to make it think the Active or TX slice is always Slice A?
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This is not a CAT problem, moreover it is a HRD issue to deal with. If HRD is listening for the change of the Active Slice it could utilize the frequency of that slice. I don't believe that the new version of CAT is going to remedy this issue as it is not for Flex Radio to solve.
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Thanks Jay.  I realize it's not an Issue for Flex to solve.  I was just wondering if anyone has a good way of dealing with it.  Lots of slices on the 6700.  When I pick one and have a QSO, The LOG doesn't sync with the slice.   I'm sure everyone else has to deal with this same issue.  I'm just wondering if anyone has a procedure that works better than having to type the info in by hand.

It would be pretty nice if there was a way to relabel a slice as A when selecting TX on that slice.  I don't know if STACKS or DDUtil can do this or not.
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If I understood OZY's video correctly, the new DAX/CAT coming in SmartSDR v.1.6 may address some of that.  I am making no insider pronouncements, just sharing what I thought I heard in the demonstration.....

I am making no major changes to my setups until after 1.6 is released and I learn the new routines.  I don't want to make extra work for myself when my time is limited this month.  As they say....we shall soon know.

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It is becoming clear after seeing that video why Flex moved the processing to the radio. It was a must. If your running a 6700 with everything running as was in the video, a Pc just could not do all the processing. This release will simply leave everything eles behind, not mentioning future releases. In my opinion.

Depending what your interested in doing for some, the radio is becoming very complicated and some things are hard to grasp, but a radio that can do as much as this can, well it tends to be that way. But things look to be very well thought out and in the right spot, so anyone willing to learn should be able to find them selves winning. Imagine doing all this on a Yeasu, could you imagine the menu's on a little screen?
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Norm wrote...

Question:  I'm currently using HRD for logging.  The one problem I have is when adding an entry into the Logbook, it only populates the frequency, mode etc., from slice A.   Is there a way to make it think the Active or TX slice is always Slice A?

The answer is no.  The "active" slice is only a user HID control construct, meaning that the only thing that an active slice designates is that the mouse or FlexControl when used will be associated with that particular slice.  There is one-to-one correlation between a slice and CAT.  And switching slice letters dynamically is not a trivial issue either because slice resources are deeply associated with persistence, which is complex enough without the slice designator being variable.

The issue here is one of HRD is not aware of a multiple slice receiver radio.  What you are asking for can be done with the FLEX-6000 API; track the transmit slice and use it's frequency.  You just have to convince HRD to scrap CAT and develop an API based interface to the FLEX-6000.
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Bill - one of the use cases I have tested for 1.6 was an SO8R Fldigi configuration using a 6700 with one slice on each band. And 8 instances of Fldigi - one for each band.  

By just interacting with Fldigi, I was able to hop from band to band seamlessly by running the standard Fldigi macros.  As soon as one instance of Fldigi was instructed to transmit, the slice associated with that instance of Fldigi was automatically designated as the transmit slice, the ATU memory for that band kicked in to tune my antenna and I started transmitting.  I never touched the SmartSDR console even once.  It was very slick. 
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Hi Tim, what about being able to associate the TX RCAs to different slices? Is that part of 1.6?
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Hey Tim? Do you recall Hartford ARRL Centenial? I've forgotten who was there with you, Greg perhaps, but whoever it was was going to, um, provide some test bed to, Rick (as I believe...the owner of HRD now). Did anything come of that effort? I thought I had seen a flexlib in their path. Where I am going with this is, from your recollection, is this simply a 'bug' in HRDLog, as they have the facility to query slices directly? or is it more involved?
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We provided the 6000 test bed...
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Salvador - TX Relays are globally associated with the slice associated with the transmitter.
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Could they ever be separate? Like one for one amp and another for another amp, and even more importantly, while daisy chaining transverters in the XVRT port? One for a 2M transverter and another for the 70cm one.  
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Salvador ́s question is very interesting indeed. If you work in a contest as SO2R with the Flex, I think a different TX RCA should be asigned per slice, in order to send PTT to 2 amplifiers.

Now, if you work SO2R with the 6700, both amps are activated at the same time when you TX on either of the slices...
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I still have hope, based on this....

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Well, I really didn't want to get into it at the end of this really long post that is not exactly on point with the question, but the TX profiles have been refactored so that they are associated with the antenna port (not the slice) and the TX Relay settings are just some of the parameters associated with it.  This allows you to operate in SO2R mode more seamlessly.  Especially if you use N1MM
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Thank ́s for your fast answer Tim! That ́s really good news
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Norm,
  FRStacks does have a slice Swap function that would let you swap any slice into the the position that was attached to HRD.    But you'd have to do that before the contact.. YMMV
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Resistance is futile.
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That's funny!
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Yep stealing this pic for facebook, tu Burt!

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Join the resistance
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Love it Burt!
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This is what trying to use the 6300 is like for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4JRLS58nyQ

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LOL... Well Burt, all I can say is that there is really inherently nothing wrong with the equipment the toddler is using.  The balls fit in the holder.  The balls themselves are functional.  It is a very clear case where the equipment was built and designed to meet all specifications except one:  Use by an untrained and perhaps as yet untrainable user.
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That's me trying to use digital modes.