SmartSDR Updates & Time Line?

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I know FRS does not announce in advance when software updates are coming but will SmartSDR be getting updates at a much faster rate going forward in 2017? With the Maestro, new IOS app, new HF amp & it’s commercial products division it seems FRS has it’s plate full and that’s a good thing it shows that the company is strong but does this mean that updates for SmartSDR will go even slower?

I hope we will see Updates roll out much faster in 2017 because although SSDR is great and the future WAN capability forthcoming will be a game changer in the industry it is lacking in so many simple features compared to PowerSDR and even many conventional transceivers. I won't go into the features since the users have posted feature request on this board hundreds of times before.

I’m not complaining I just wanted to get a sense what to expect from FRS in 2017 as far as SSDR and the 6000 series.
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EA4GLI - 8P9EH - Salvador

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Bump. :)
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Walt - KZ1F

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Here is what I propose. Wait and see what FlexRadioSystems does in 2017. If you don't approve of how they run their own privately held company, find another vendor. This constant whining is and has continued to be tedious.
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And on that last derogatory comment I think I'll un-follow this conversation. Oh... un-follow. Like if you're not interested in a conversation you simply stop reading it? Ya.
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I need to step in and please ask that any slang with a possible racist tint be avoided on the Community.  We are a worldwide collection of amateur radio operators and we should treat all of our brothers and sisters with respect.  This isn't some sort of political correctness stance, but just basic common courtesy.  Remember what you write here is read by many people, of different ages, from different countries.  Let's try and be good, polite world citizens.  Thank you.
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Ernest - W4EG

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That's why there is a selection to follow/unfollow all or any of the subjects in the forum.
Especially when the subject has been asked and answer SO many times! 
Let me make a suggestion; how about before posting a question you check to see if what you are about to post has already been asked and answered and avoid the repetition.
 
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Regarding the sound advice on follow/unfollow, all I can say is: Physician heal thyself!
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SteveM

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Regarding the sound advice on follow/unfollow, all I can say is: Physician heal thyself!
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There no indication that releases will slow down in the future, a matter of fact Flex has planned releases about every 3 months. But over the last year they have released a few point releases in between the main releases. considering how complicated SSDR is that's doing very good.

I mentioned this before, PSDR took about 7 years of work to get all the features it has when they left off.
For the most part SSDR has almost the same features but SSDR handles them in different ways, such as 3rd party software to accomplish them as is intended.
I remember reading a post by Flex as to why they left PSDR, they listed a long list of reasons. The most important to me was that they plan on doing more wide band processing features in SSDR. PSDR simply can't do this. Such as WBNB. There are a host of things that PSDR can't do that SSDR can and will do soon.

And look at this way as well, we have a radio that will continue to evolve and updates will always be part of owning a Flex.
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FRS already stated that they will try to get out more frequent updates if possible.
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EA4GLI - 8P9EH - Salvador

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I guess a few of us still hope the Road Map returns.... but that seems to be more of a dream than a plausible probability. :)    (I really wish Get Satisfaction had a few emoticons on the text entry applet)
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After, Gerald was called names and dragged through mud because of being 2 weeks late on one or two releases? Not likely. 
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Official Response
The question at hand is..

"...will SmartSDR be getting updates at a much faster rate going forward in 2017?"

Steve Hicks, the VP of Engineering answered this question several times recently.  We are transitioning to more frequent release cycles and this has been evident in 2016.

To date in 2016, there have been four minor releases (1.6, 1.7, 1.8. 1.9) and another one scheduled for later this month (1.10)  In that same time period, there have been an additional four (4) maintenance releases making for a total of at least 9 software releases for 2016.  That is an admirable number of software releases for one year.  

Will 2017 have 9-10 software releases? Maybe yes.  Maybe more or maybe less. This isn't a numbers game where in January we say we are going to do X number of releases for the year.  We have in mind release "themes" comprised of different feature sets.  Once defined, we start working towards that goal.  When we get to a point where there are enough of the right features that are complete and we are satisfied with the release quality, we cut a release.

We are very excited about the new SmartSDR v2.0 software that will be delivered in 2017.  We anticipate you will be too.  Stay tuned.  
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SmartSDR v2.0 software that will be delivered in 2017

may i ask ,begin mid or end ?  new year gift ?
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"When we get to a point where there are enough of the right features that are complete and we are satisfied with the release quality, we cut a release." 

This sentence is meant to imply that we do not release by dates, but by feature completeness, whenever that occurs.
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pretty sure you have couple of guy already work on it 

so did the guy look happy or look desperate or review it resume  ?
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We chain them to the desk and feed them Cheetos and Redbulls until the code is done ;-)

Seriously, we have a sharp group of programmers who love hard challenges.  I am impressed daily by the work products they turn out.  Anything which is difficult is just a greater challenge to overcome and they focus on it more intensely.  They don't back down from a challenge.
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Tim thank you for the response.

This thread did confirm one thing for me that there sure are a lot of immature whinny wind bags or trolls on this group. I think from now on I will just call directly when I have a question.


The people on this group sure don’t represent the spirit of ham radio and camaraderie I remember, they just sound like a bunch little babies that think they know it all.


I love my FlexRadio but I am so done with this Board!


PS. I bet some troll will have to throw their 2 cent into this comment and prove my point once again.

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With any diverse group of people, there is a wide range of personalities one encounters.   And intermixed in the various personalities are cultural differences.  And most people have different opinions from one another on most subjects.  There is no getting around it, this creates a very vibrant group dynamic which presents its own challenges managing the Community to prevent total anarchy and chaos.

One thing that is universal in any group is to treat one another as you want to be treated.  I know of no one that wants to be stereotyped, personally attacked, or be described using derogatory language.  This is just basic common courtesy that we all learned at a young age.

If your Community reply does not add to the collective information needed to answer the question, then please think twice before descending upon your keyboard to provide inflammatory opinions or treat someone as you would not like to be treated.

The challenge for everyone in a group dynamic is to not let your passion override reason.  Think before you click the Submit button.  The Cancel (delete) button can be your greatest friend. 

For the most part, everyone on the Community is fairly well behaved.  Occasionally there are digressions and those are addressed privately.  We very rarely delete Community member's post and even more rarely suspend posting privileges, but when necessary we do take those actions.  The threshold for taking these actions is fairly high, because we want everyone to be able to express themselves without fear of moderation, but we expect everyone to do so in a professional manner. We at FlexRadio read every post.  We want to understand our valued customer's opinions about our products and know what they are thinking.  This factors into our decision-making process on a daily basis. 

John, I can appreciate your frustration with the Community.  I ask that you not give up on the Community just yet.  Feel free to submit a HelpDesk support ticket anytime you desire an official FlexRadio answer to a question or have an issue needing resolution.  There is a lot of benefit to be had emanating from the Community.  Thank you for your patience and understanding. 
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Hi Mark,

You wanted a comment? Here it is. Tim is right, do not give up on the board. I'm sorry there are some ill-mannered operators that have turned you off. Sometimes
it can be like TV, you have to click the remote to find something not offensive.
There is much to be said that is good on this board and again Tim is right. People should treat people how they would like to be treated. Have a great weekend, and stay with the board. Now I'm off to finish a siding job before snowballs are hitting me you know where. Two days now, it has been 34 degrees when I got up at 7 am.

73, Jim N9VC
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Agreed, I should have said that not all of the people on the message board are bad just a few that just can’t keep their negative comments to them selves.

There are some smart and helpful people here and I am glad for that. 

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I did not know that PSDR was updated for 7 years before Flex stopped and went onto SSDR. If that is the case and there are several updates per year and (hopefully) goes on for the next 7 years, then I can expect to have a new radio every few months for several years. Now considering what I paid for the Flex 6300, I consider it a bargain.
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From what I can see at the pace that FRS is developing SmartSDR by the time it is has most of the features of PowerSDR plus some new of the new features that KE9NS has added make it into Smart SDR the radio might be obsolete.

Either FRS makes software development a real priority and hires a bunch more software developers or the competition will blow them by quickly. You can only be a leader if you stay ahead of the competition.

Now with ANNAN, Elad, Icom, Yeasu and a few others now in the SDR game it is more important than ever to move quickly or fall behind.

The 6000 series is awesome and has great potential but it’s the Software that’s holding it back.
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