SmartSDR 1.6 Profile Changes - a sneak peek

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With the upcoming release of SmartSDR v1.6 release, one of the major areas addressed was the refactoring (a fancy development word for completely redoing) of the Profiles feature.  In versions of SmartSDR prior to 1.6, there were two types of profiles; Global and its associated TX profile.  We determined that this profile architecture was not optimally configured for operating in a workflow optimized (aka "contesting") manner.  So we went back to the drawing board and made some significant changes.

1. You can now delete Default profiles.
2. Transmit profiles have been split into Transmit and Mic profiles.
3. CW Settings are no longer stored in profiles.
4. Mode changes now load a “linked” Mic Profile.
5. TX Antenna changes now load a “linked” Transmit Profile.
6. Transmit profiles now save power settings for all bands.

In order to better assist you in understanding the changes and how the linked profiles interact with the radio state, Ed, KG5FBT the "Profile Master" has written a how to guide that describes the Profile changes and interaction in greater detail along with with some examples.  In preparation for the release of SmartSDR v1.6 the week of January 10th, we are making the SmartSDR Profiles How To Guide available to you now so you have a chance to review it and get a sneak peek into the details of how this updated feature operates.
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Tim - W4TME, Customer Experience Manager

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Ken K7YR

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Thanks Tim !.  Looking forward to this great addition.

Ken K7YR
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DrTeeth

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Thanks for the publication of the guide. Will it be possible to reinstall a default profile after deleting it?
Mni tnx es 73 de Guy G4DWV/4X1LT
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Tim - W4TME, Customer Experience Manager

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Yes, by resetting the radio back to factory defaults
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David

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So they are completely deleted instead of a hidden setting so they don't display in a listing but could easily be restored without a reset?
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KY6LA - Howard, Elmer

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You can also backup your profiles and restore deleted ones from your backup
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Tim - W4TME, Customer Experience Manager

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David.  Deleted is deleted.  This is aspect of profile management has not changed.  As Howard said, it is a best practice to backup your profiles so if they are deleted, you can recover them.
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The wording that describes deleting default profiles may be a little confusing.  In prior releases, one could not delete a default profile.  In 1.6, one can delete a default profile.  If they are in your way, if you don't want them around, you can delete them.

If you do a "factory reset", all of the profiles you may have stored in the radio are cleared.  The default profiles are restored.  You can't edit the initial state of those profiles and you can't prevent the software from restoring them on a reset.

When profiles are imported, they are added to the radio.  If an imported profile has the same name as an existing profile, the imported value overwrites the existing value.  This means you can overwrite default profiles on an import.  But for the sake of keeping things transparent and understandable, it would probably be best to save modifications to default profiles to new profiles with different names.
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Need I Say More.....

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KC2QMA_John

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Keep up the great work FRS!
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Rick Zach

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Thank you! Any word on band edge markers?
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Tim - W4TME, Customer Experience Manager

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I am afraid that feature did not make it into SmartSDR v1.6
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Lewis Cheek

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Nick Cloyes

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Each release makes me feel like a kid a Christmas!  I can't wait.

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Tim - W4TME, Customer Experience Manager

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Each release makes us feel like the parent who stays up to 5:30 am Christmas morning putting the toys together.
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Burt Fisher

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Well put
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Nice!  Thanks...  any word about RX EQ linked to mode?
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RX and TX EQ Enabled flags and Levels are stored in MIC profiles.  When a Global profile is invoked, each slice defined in the Global profile is set to the mode recorded for that slice.  If one of the slices has the TX flag, the MIC profile that was associated with that mode at the time the Global profile was saved is also invoked.  Sounds messy, but in practice it works intuitively.

If you define different slices to operate in different modes using different MIC profiles, then the MIC profiles will change as you move the TX flag from slice to slice.  Again, this might seem messy, but in practice it behaves in a predictable way.
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"...in practice it behaves in a predictable way."

This is dead on correct.  I defined a PSK31 mic profile and regardless of band (once it is set up) any time I change a slice's mode to DIGU, the radio configures itself for PSK.  Change the slice mode to USB and my PR40 mic profile is loaded.   I do not have to select a profile to do this, it just happens automagically.
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Dave, I really like the way you are describing the way MIC profiles work, it sounds like I can have a slice on 75 SSB with a rag chew profile, a slice on 15 SSB with a DX profile, and a slice on 60 meters SSB with a mild but slightly narrow profile and they will automatically switch according to which one is RX actice? Neat!

My main issue is whether the RX EQ will switch according to my mode when I change a slice from SSB to CW. By clicking on a spot? Please describe what you mean by the RX and TX EQ are stored in MIC profiles....
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This is almost how it behaves, but not quite.

The profiling works with modes.  You can have a different Mic profile on LSB and one on USB.   If you move the TX flag to a slice with in USB mode, it will recall the last profile that was used on USB.  Same when shifting to LSB.

My usage is I have a Mic profile called "Digital" and then the rest of my real microphone profiles.   When I move the TX flag to DIGU, the profile switches to Digital, and DAX and related settings are ready.   If I click the TX flag on my USB Slice, it recalls my RadioSport profile I last used.   The persistence isn't Mode+Band, just Mode specific.

TX EQ settings are stored in the Mic Profile.
RX EQ settings are stored in the Global Profile.  I tested this earlier.
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I tested and confirmed Chris' comments above.  The RX EQ settings are stored in the Global profile, as far as I can tell.  This means we have some documentation errors to correct, which is unfortunate.

The situation concerning the relationship of MIC profiles to Modes is a bit messy to describe in words, but again, it makes good sense in practical use.  It is unfortunate that SmartSDR has evolved in a way so that both modes and "sub-modes" are displayed by the program in the various menus as if they were equivalent.  But they are not.  LSB and USB are variants of SSB mode and as such are bound together to a MIC profile.  A MIC profile bound to USB is also bound to LSB.  DIGU and DIGL are similarly one mode.  FM, NFM and DFM are one mode, etc.

Like Chris, I have a MIC profile for my PR781 and another for Digital Modes.  When I switch any slice between voice and digital modes, the MIC profile follows.  I have a third MIC profile for PR781 DX usage, which changes the TX EQ for better pile up "penetration".  That profile is not used directly by any Global profile in my setup, but I can switch it in as needed very conveniently.
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Thanks you for the detailed explanation!/documentation!!
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Robbie - KI4TTZ

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Great idea releasing the docs first.  Since I can't play with the new version yet, I'm actually reading the docs. ;-)
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I agree with Robbie.  Releasing the documentation prior to the software is stimulating folks to actually read the documentation.  I'll admit, I'm the type that will normally discard the documentation and fly by intuitiveness until something goes terribly wrong.  At that point, I'll get on the web and search for my answer.  If that fails, I'll reluctantly open the documentation!   I'm probably the only person on here that does it this way, right?

I thoroughly enjoyed both the video and the documents.  Thank you!
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Walt - KZ1F

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Nope, Norm - that's my SOP.
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plain ol Bill

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My luck holds true - my new radio is still on its way to me and a new release of the software is almost released.
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K1UO - Larry

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Hi Bill,  please order a radio around Dayton...  I need the 2.0 WAN feature about then.

Congrats on the new rig.



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Ross - K9COX

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Subsequent releases will no longer require any operator intervention at all, we have all been replaced. Resistance is futile.
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Default Profiles and all others can be exported individual or in bulk.  This is also true for importing them. I have saved all the default profiles as a separate export. If I wish to put it back I can import it from that backup with out losing your current profile set. Just don't delete the that Config file with your defaults in it or you will have to do a reset. It is manageable with no loss of your profiles. 

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Also you can Rename the profile/memory file and load them back in. 
So keep your master as MyDefaults or some such nonsense... 

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