SmartLink use cases

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Hello,

Two items in Tim's FAQ caught my attention:
1) CW requires a Maestro..or at least this is how I understand the answer on CW
2) No DAX

So, if I want to use my Flex remotely for CW and RTTY, without a Maestro, how would this work in practice? Note that for CW I will be using a combination or a regular CW paddle and N1MM; for RTTY I will be using N1MM with MMTTY and 2Tone.

Thanks!
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Tim - W4TME, Customer Experience Manager

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To operate CW, you need to use CWX for SmartSDR.  For Maestro, you can connect a key to it and use the internal WinKeyer capabilities to send CW remotely.

DAX is a very high bandwidth / throughput process to run over the Internet.  It can have negative consequences when using a metered service.  We chose not to include DAX capability in SmartLink with version 2.0 until we can assess ways of providing lossless (or close to it) compression that would not adversely affect the digital mode encoding.
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If DAX were to go away locally in V2.0 of SSDR, that would 
kill CW skimmer, etc.

Think it only relates to SmartLink Only
remote use !

Can Anyone verify this for us ! 

These is some confusion for Mark here !

I think for local use & LAN, DAX is still in place but not for WAN outside
remote away from the shack with SmartLink 

73 Mike
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DAX Works locally on V2.0 on LAN just like V1\
DAX Does not yet work on V2. WAN

But hopefully soon.
'In the interim you could use DAX via VPN if you have the bandwidth
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Thanks Howard
  73 Mike
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I am getting really confused. What modes will be available to use remotely using SmartLink without Maestro?
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All you can use with Maestro on the LAN today with SmartSDR v1.x.  DAX does not run on Maestro.
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Should DAX with SmartLink not be a user selectable option for those times when we have enough bandwidth?  I currently have the cabability to use DAX or not with my VPN remote with SmartSDR.

Seems moving to SmartLink for my remote operation will be a step backwards in this capability area.
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I agree with John...  It appears we will be able to throttle back the Smartlink BW use for limited BW situations..how about an option to open things up a bit for things like DAX if the BW is available.
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OK, let me rephrase my question:

1) To connect to N1MM I need a COM port to either do CW directly or control WinKeyer. When using SmartLink, is there a COM port available to the software running on the near end?

2) To run any digital mode, I need a soundcard for input and output. When using SmartLink, is there a pair of audio input/outputs available to the software on the near end can use?

I do not plan on buying a Maestro.
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1) You can use SmartSDR CAT for the CAT COM ports you need which works with SmartLink.

2) No DAX remote via SmartLink yet.  DAX still works on your LAN as it always has.
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Thanks, Eric. So if I understand correctly, remote access over WAN will be limited to the following:

1) CW via CAT or by typing on the CWX keyboard without Maestro, and using a paddle with Maestro
2) Voice with or without Maestro

No digital modes until some future release of the v2.0 or v3.0 software.

Did I get it right? Is there a document that illustrates the implemented use cases?

Would be great if one of the Alpha testers could take a few minutes to record a video for Show & Tell.
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I think you got it.  The only docs out so far are the v2.0 FAQ, the SmartLink Quick Start Guides (one for SmartSDR for Windows and one for Maestro).  Oh, and the v2 Change Log.
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Eric, understood that DAX is not available via SmartLink.  Hopefully it will be provided SOON.  Seems a bit clunky that I would use SmartLink to operate SSB/CW but if I want to operate Digital Modes while remote now I need to also have a VPN or VNC type connection back to a computer running in the shack in order to run the digital mode program.

It kind of defeats many of the advantages that SmartLink is suppose to provide.  For example not having to run a computer in the shack to operate remote.  Also, it now makes it an issue to run a integrated logging program on the remote computer like HRD.  Now I need to run it on a computer in the shack so that I can use and log digital contacts.

I am surprized that this lack of functionality in SmartLink has not been raised earlier and glad I learned about it before I scrapped my VPN solution for remote operation and paid for a SmartLink upgrade.

Just to be a little critical It is surprizing to me that we have waited so long for V2 remote capability and a full solution is not being provided.  It leaves me concerned that I will learn from Flex at some later date that they were unable, unwilling or technically incapable of providing DAX via SmartLink and I will be left running remote one way for some modes and then shutting it down and starting up a VPN remote system for other modes.  It would not be the first time that something was promised and then not delivered.
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I also think that crippling down functionality is a huge deal, but wonder about the actual impact of no DAX. Specifically, virtually all digital modes are SSB and since SSB is supported why can't virtual audio cables be used to pipe the audio from the digital program into the mic input.
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Virtual audio cables have been used in SDR for a long time.  This might prove to be an easy way to run the digital programs remotely.  Hank K9LZJ

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