Slice Master 6000 v0.10.7 is now available

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Version v0.10.7 adds basic Flex SSDR v3 support to Slice Master. 

The latest README is now available at https://github.com/K1DBO/slice-master-6000 and will tell you how to get started, or you can just download the latest zip from https://github.com/K1DBO/slice-master-6000/releases

If you are running SSDR v2 or SSDR v3 but not using any of the Multi-Flex features, you shouldnt notice anything new in this release.  If you are using Multi-Flex, and would like to specify the station for Slice Master to bind too, you'll be interested in the new
         --station STATION
start-up option.  This option can only be set at start up time so you'll need to either create a Slice Master shortcut for each station you'd like to bind to or start Slice Master from a cmd window.

I hope this release is less buggy than I expect it to be.  Please let me know how it goes.  Unreported problems rarely get fixed!

--Don



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Thanks for all the work you've put into the program.

I'm having difficulty with getting it to launch WSJT-X.  No issues with CW Skimmer, skimmer launches and works as expected.  Using V3.

I verified that DAX is enabled on the slice and in the DAX control panel.  I started Slice Master from the cmd window and used the --station attribute.  I did have to take the space out of my station name in order for SM to recognize the station.  Also, started WSJT-X manually and then retried with SM-no change.  I am using 2.1.0 rc5.  Could this be causing an incompatibility issue?  

-Chuck
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Thanks Chuck... you're right.  The problem was on my end.  I've uploaded a v0.10.7a to github.  It should take care of the WSJT-X problem.
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The 0.10.7a works well. Thanks!
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I'm running FlexRadio 2.4.9 on and 6300, Slice Master 6000 v0.10.7b, and WSJT-X v2.0.1. 

When I start SM is it supposed to automagically find WSJT-X and display it under the Launch tab? 

I'm also running HRD v6.5.0.207 and only see DN780 listed under the SM Launch | Slice A tab.  
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As a test I just installed CW Skimmer and I see it automatically showed up under the Launch | Slice A tab of Slice Master.
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If WSJT-X is installed in the default location, Slice Master will find it and add it to the launch tabs. Note that if you just installed it, the installation isn’t complete until you run it I once from the desktop. You don’t have to configure it but adding your station information to its settings is a good idea.

—Don
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Thnx! 
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Brian Denley KB1VBF

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Does WSJT-X have to be in ‘the default location’? I install most apps in my D drive. Windows is in C.
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You can install WSJT-X anywhere you'd like.  However, by default, Slice Master only knows to look for it in its default location.  If you install it somewhere else, you'll have to edit the Slice Master config file.  The file can be found here

C:\Users\<your name here>\AppData\Local\K1DBO\slice-master\config.ini

Just search for the WSJT-X section and edit the path to the executable.

Make sure that Slice Master is NOT running while you edit the configs, otherwise your changes will be lost.
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Brian Denley KB1VBF

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Thanks. That might be my problem.
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Brian Denley KB1VBF

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Hmm readme file says where the Slicemaster config.ini file is but there is no such file or even an APPDATA file in my C drive.  There is an APPDATA file on my D drive but no config file or slicemaster folder anywhere on my computer.  Slicemaster is so particular on where the apps are located that I have to edit this file.  No problem but I cannot find any such file.  Windows 10 latest update.
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Brian Denley KB1VBF

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Never mind me.  I found the config file by searching under K1DBO on my D drive. 
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I am on it. Will let you know Don

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So far so good. CW skimmer and WSJT working fine. Did not want to play at first. I deleted the slicemaster folder in my user folders and rebooted and took right off.

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Great!  Thanks for the feedback Rich.

The config folder should have worked fine.  No changes in there since the last version.  Perhaps it was the reboot that really did the trick?
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Yea good chance it was reboot. When in doubt...
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Hi Don,
CW skimmer often is spotting one station on 2 different frequencies, a proper and false at the same time.
I'm with 6600 v.3
73 Boyan
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I'm going to have to dig into my notes on this one.  I sounds very similar to something that's been discussed before.  The short of it is that it's not a Slice Master problem but rather a DAX problem.  My guess is that your DAX drivers need some attention.  You might have other, still unnoticed, issues with them. 

A quick fix might be to tell CW Skimmer to use the WDM Soundcard Drivers instead of the MME drivers that Slice Master prefers.  But if that helps it only confirms my guess.
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Hi Don,
No difference with MME or WDM drivers. Skimmer works OK with Afedri RX. DAX, CAT and SSDR are put in exception list of Firewall and antivirus.
It looks I have some problems with my DAXIQ installation, but I don't have any idea where to look.
I'm with Win10 Pro64.
73 Boyan
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Boyan,

I would start with this. Flex DAX is a little flaky and seems to require occasional rebuilding

https://helpdesk.flexradio.com/hc/en-us/articles/204017069-How-to-Manually-Re-Install-DAX-Drivers

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Rich,
thanks for link. I will try it next week when I come back at home.
73 Boyan
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I found the problem after few drivers uninstalls/installs :)
IQ drivers were set by default to 24bit 48kHz in my Sounds Playback/Recording Advanced settings.
Skimmer works OK when you set it to 48kHz, but there are a lot of wrong spots when is set to 96kHz or 192kHz.
I changed IQ drivers to 24bit 192kHz and Skimmer now works OK on 48, 96 and 192kHz without any false spot.
I left all other DAX drivers (RX, TX and Mic audio) to 48kHz.

73 Boyan
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I tried what you suggested and I'm still seeing false spots on 48, 96, and 192 kHz.  Are there any other recommendations?  I don't recall seeing this on 2.4.9 and the compatible SliceMaster version.
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Make sure the DAX drivers are set to stereo (2 channel).  I've seen cases where they end up being set to mono (1 channel).  For I/Q data, the I uses one channel and the Q uses the other.

--Don
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Definitely set to two channel.
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Thank you so much for this program. I love it. Very much appreciated!
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You're welcome!
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Don,

Just loaded v0.10.7b and it works fine with DM780 and
WSJT-X.  Thank you for this nice program !

Two questions:
(1) Does it support WSJT V10.0 as well ( used in the EME Community) ? 
(2) How to activate the HRD Logbook ?

73 Wolf
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Wolf,

Sorry, but Slice Master does not support WSJT V10.0.  You're the first the ask.

HRD Logbook, on the other hand is fairly well supported.  Slice Master wont launch it for you, but you can use Slice Master in place of HRD Rig Control and configure HRD Logbook to connect to it instead.  This starts with enabling Slice Master's HRD TCP TX Listener on the Slice Master settings tab.  Make note of the port number.  It's usually 7810 but could be anything.



Then configure HRD Logbook's radio pane to connect to Slice Master



We've now taken HRD Rig Control out of the loop and put Slice Master in its place.  

You can also configure HRD Logbook to read spots from Slice Master's telnet aggregation server.  

The first step is to enable Slice Master's aggregation server



This capture also shows how to enable spots from other telnet servers.  HRD Logbook will only connect to one telnet server at a time.  So if you want your "locally" discovered spots from CW Skimmer and WSJT-X to appear in HRD Logbook along with spots from other cluster servers, you'll have to configure Slice Master to connect to the other cluster servers.

The second spot source show here tells Slice Master to query HRD Logbook for "color" information.  Whenever a new spot is discovered, Slice Master will ask HRD Logbook for information on the call.  That information will be used to apply a color to the spot when it is displayed in the SSDR panafall.  The color is intended to give you a rough idea of the desirability of the spot.

Back in HRD Logbook, you'll need to add Slice Master's aggregation server



and select it for use.

Finally, on HRD Logbook's Tools menu select the 'Network Server' option and make sure that it's enabled.  If you are already using DM780, it probably is.



Slice Master can also work with HRD Sat Track but there's a fairly recent thread here on that topic so I'll skip that for now.

Good Luck!

--Don


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Hi to all.
I need the link for download Please.

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https://github.com/K1DBO/slice-master-6000/releases

I downloaded yesterday, installed, and it did work flawless with WSJT-X this morning.

Johan
 
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Is there a manual for Slicemaster 6000? The readme file is not doing it for me.
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Brian,

Sorry but the README is about all there is to the documentation for Slice Master.  What are you having trouble with?

--Don
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Thanks for the hard work and for replying. I have only had my Flex 6400 for two weeks. It’s great but I’m still learning Dax, etc. I own the latest release of HRD for instance but I can’t seem to get Slicemaster to start it or any other app. Do I need to do something different with CAT?

Thanks
Brian. KB1VBF
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Brian,

Is Slice Master connecting to your radio?  If so, there's not much more to getting it to configure and launch a handful of digimode programs.  Most of the supported  programs need to be run at least once outside of Slice Master to finish off their installation.  It's also important to either install these programs in their default locations or to let Slice Master know where you've installed them by editing its config file.  

With HRD installed, Slice Master should give you the option to launch DM780 but it doesnt automatically launch HRD Rig Control or any of the other HRD components.  You can launch them on your own, but with Slice Master, there's no need for HRD Rig Control.  

But before going into detail I'd like to suggest that you use the search function here to find other posts related to Slice Master and HRD.  Give those a look and if things are still muddy, drop me an email at the address you see when Slice Master starts up.

--Don
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Hi, I'm new to Flex and brand new to Slice Master.
Someone can give me good links (maybe tested) to be included in the "Spot Sources". Unfortunately I have few spots and I don't understand why and where I'm wrong. Thanks in advance!
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I recently upgraded SSDR/CAT/DAX from 2.4.9 to 2.5.1.  Now, Slice Master does not launch JTDX as it used to.  The warning message at the bottom of Slice Master is: "Audio channel is not enabled in DAX control panel. slice='A' dax=1.  I have confirmed that in the DAX Control Panel, the RX stream for Slice A is enabled and it shows streaming activity.  Also, in SSDR the mode is set to DIGU and DAX is set to channel 1.  I'm not sure what else to try at this point.


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A slightly different problem.
On a very busy band the CW Skimmer shuts down. The launch tab on S/M is also changed to "never". On a not busy band it stays in operation normally. Anybody else see this?
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Hi, no I have not noticed that. Only when I intentionalle close down slice master.
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Having a problem with CW Skimmer while using Slice Master. If I click on the SSDR waterfall CW Skimmer will not follow the freq change. But if I click on the CW Skimmer waterfall the radio follows. 
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CW Skimmer does not work for Slice "A" It works fine for B

2019-10-21 22:16:14,772 INFO   cwskimmer.telnet_connect Connected to CW Skimmer telnet port. slice='A' port=7301
2019-10-21 22:16:14,858 INFO   cwskimmer.telnet_handler Lost connection with CW Skimmer slice='A'

I tried many things and still can't figure it out what is wrong...? 
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Seems the integration with DXLabs Spotcollector is not working, with or without enabling http server in Spotcollector. Running Slicemaster 0.10.7c. and SSDR 3.1.8.and SpotCollector 8.4.4
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I've given up on Slice Master. When opening CW Skimmer, Slice Master causes it to minimize Skimmer and makes it unusable. One other fellow Flex user has no problem with Slice Master but can't use SDR Bridge. I on the other hand CAN use SDR Bridge and NOT Slice Master for CW Skimmer. This is driving me nuts!

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Sorry about this, and I feel silly even asking...but I see no links anywhere on the releases page from which one could download the current Windows executable for SliceMaster 6000. Would I find that?

Again, zero links here:https://github.com/K1DBO/slice-master-6000/releases for downloads of the executable. Where is that binary located?

Thanks again, sorry I can't find it, when it seems everyone else on this thread had no problem with that.

Ok, hang on...I found it. Not obvious, but I found it. Click the big blue text at the top of the page for the most recent release.  Then, scroll to the bottom of the page and find a list of Assets.  The first one, a zip file, is the link I had been looking for.
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Don,
I would like to use Omnirig instead of default Ham Radio Deluxe as Radio Control of WSJT-x and Fake It instead of default None for Split Operation.
Could you advice please.
73 Boyan


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Boyan,

Slice Master doesnt support Omnirig.  It only supports the HRD protocol for rig control with WSJT-X.  Are you having a problem with WSJT-X controlling your slice?  Note that Slice Master's use of the HRD protocol does not imply the need to install or use any part of HRD.

"Fake it" is designed for rigs that use analog audio to feed the signal to the radio.  These analog paths often include equalization that distort your signal and thus end up creating a "sweet spot" in the passband where no distortion exists.  With DAX and DIGU mode in the Flex, there is no sweet spot.  Your WSJT-X signal can appear anywhere in the passband and work just as well as anywhere else.

Slice Master is designed to simplify configuration of third party software by eliminating choices that need not be made.  I also hope that these choices dont get in the way of "operating style" or "user preference".  Are you finding WSJT-X doesnt work correctly with the Flex when split mode is set to None?  Is there something you would like to happen that cant happen when split mode is set to None?

I'm very open to arguments to the contrary, but at this point I'm sticking with the assertion that "None" is the correct split mode for use with the Flex.


     --Don


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Hi Don,

thanks for your explanation. WSJT-X documentation strongly suggests to use RIT or Fake It, which seems is not necessary for Flex radios, so the way you did it is just fine.
BTW Omnirig is working OK until you close wsjt-x :)

73 Boyan


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Boyan, 

Omnirig is known to work well with the Flex.  That's not the issue. 

If you have Slice Master launch WSJT-X then change the rig settings, WSJT-X is no longer talking to Slice Master.  It's now talking to Omnirig which is then talking to SDR CAT which is then talking to the Flex.

Slice Master knows it's sitting between the Flex and WSJT-X.  Omnirig only knows it's talking to a radio.  It doesnt know what is talking to it (WSJT-X).  When connecting WSJT-X to the Flex, Slice Master knows to optimize the connection for that purpose.  For example, Slice Master will make sure DAX is selected as the audio source whenever WSJT-X requests a TX.  Omnirig can only control two of your slices.  Slice Master can handle all eight.

If you enjoy re-configuring your software every time you launch a program, Slice Master probably isnt for you.  If you want to launch a handful of programs on any slice at any time and be pretty sure it will just work, let Slice Master configure things for you.  And please, let me know if Slice Master doesnt meet this expectation. 

--Don
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To add to Don's comments, since the Flex has a flat EQ from about 0Hz to how every wide you open the filters (3000Hz), Fake it or anything else is not required at all.  

Other HF rigs do not have the same Flat equalization so WSJT compensates for this by moving the VFO to about the center of the audio passband (I think they assume 1500 hz is good).  Again, not required for any 6000 series Flex radio.  We have designed it to work correctly from the ground up.

I have worked stations from 200Hz up to 3000hz offset without issue and the VFO never moves.  :)

Mike
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Well, maybe all that is described somewhere, but I missed it and I red only WSJT-X help file when I configured my setup. Of course it is easier to let Slicemaster to take care about configuration.
Thanks again for explanation!
73 Boyan
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Hi Don,

could you advice please how to set up 2 skimmers on 2 bands.
6600 v.3.1.8
comp-1 SSDR slice A+B on first band, DAXIQ1
comp-2 SSDR slice A+B on second band, DAXIQ3

73 Boyan
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Boyan,

It sounds like you are already set up for it.  In Slice Master, just select the Launch tab for your slice and press the quick launch button for CW Skimmer.  You can do this for as many slices as you like.  If CW Skimmer doesnt launch, check the status line at the bottom of Slice Master for warning or error messages.  If you miss them you can click on the status area and let your mouse sit there for a couple of seconds.  You'll get a pop-up showing the last few messages.

As long as you have a DAXIQ channel set on the panafall for your slice, and that DAXIQ channel is enabled the DAX Control Panel it should just work.

--Don
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Hi Don,
I have two separate PC's and on each of them is runing SSDR with 2 active slices A+B and a Slicemaster.
Spots from both Slicemasters are combined in one Wintelnetx.
Is it possible to use only one Slicemaster from which I can start one skimmer linked to PC1 Slice A and a second skimmer linked to PC2 Slice A?
73 Boyan
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Boyan,

Slice Master needs to be running on the computer where it launches the third programs.  That is... Slice Master running on computer 1 cant launch a CW Skimmer on computer 2.  

Now if you are asking for computer 2's CW Skimmers to be launched by computer 1's Slice Master and to run on computer 1.  I'd say that's possible but would require a code change.

--Don
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Don,

I think it is a good idea if Slicemaster can agregate spots from both skimmers and a cluster and can feed a loging program with these spots.
Could you check please my setting below.


Agregator is feeding Skimmer spots to my logger, while VE7CC Cluster spots are missing.
73 Boyan




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Boyan,

Slice Master is working as designed.  The spot sources in Slice Master are there to send spots to SSDR's panafall display.  The aggregration server is there to collect spots from the programs that Slice Master launches.

However, there is an undocumented (I think) and lightly tested feature available in Slice Master's aggregation server that provides the behavior you are looking for.  After your logger's telnet client connects to Slice Master, have it send 
    set/sm_external
This will cause Slice Master to send all spots, regardless of source, to your client.
  
There's a chance you'll create a loop in your spot plumbing but depending on the program that might not be an issue.  Slice Master does what it can to prevent sending spots back to where they came from, but it's not always easy to tell.  So your logger might send a spot to Slice Master, Slice Master will send it back to your logger, and then your logger will it back to Slice Master.  Guess what happens next ;)

I like to use VE7CC's CC User program to aggregate my spots.  It does a much better job with spot filters than Slice Master ever will.  I have Slice Master get its spot from CC User and I also have CC User get spots from Slice Master.  My logger only needs to get spots from CC User to see everything.  Slice Master's loop protection works well in this case.  I do understand that the lack of filtering is not always a big deal and sometimes, having to run and configure yet another program can be a real pain.

Give this feature a try and let me know how it goes.

--Don
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Hi Don,
the command works, but time to time there is a loop, so it is better not to use it that way.
I will stay with wintelnetx.
73 Boyan
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Any updates for SM6K? I know I am using a dev version (7c.12) that fixed an issue I had, so was wondering if there will be a released version?
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Gary,

The splash screen you see when Slice Master start up will let you know if a new version is available.  The bug fixes you have in your dev version will be in the next release.

--Don
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OK, thanks, BTW where does SM store it's settings?
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Settings are all stored in 

C:\Users\<your name here>\AppData\Local\K1DBO\slice-master

But I dont recommend changing those by hand.  If you think the Settings tab is missing something, please let me know.
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No, just needed to back up the settings. SSDR DAX is flaky at best and periodically causes a BSOD when opened, and if SM6K is open when that happens it looses it's settings. So it's just handy to have a backup config to restore.
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I'd like to know which settings get lost.  It really shouldnt happen like that.  Slice Master saves your settings anytime you change them.  What happens after the change should not be causing any trouble.

If you can reproduce the problem I'd love to see the before and after config files.  Just drop an email to the address in the startup screen if you'd like to play along.

Thanks.
 --Don
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What happens after a BSOD reboot is SM6K is now opens on the main screen vs an second monitor where it normally lives, and the DXCluster info is reset. So next time it happens I will send you the backup config and what results after the BSOD. It does not happen often but always is caused by DAX strating up. And I have to restore the CAT.settings and DAX.settings for SSDR to recover too.

I have several HD tickets in with Flex on several bugs they have confirmed I am just waiting (and waiting, and waiting) on fixes for.