Sideways Monitor Issue Fixed!

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Very pleased to find the latest update resolves the 6600M HDMI "sideways monitor" issue.  Bravo to the Flex SSDR software team!
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James Whiteway

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Has the ANF been fixed? That has been my only disappointment with v2.x of SSDR with my 6600M. I'd rather deal with the momentary sideways startup display, than having to listen to tuner uppers and jammers carriers constantly popping thru a QSO. It's annoying, and more so, when a $5,000.00 radio cannot handle what a 20 year old radio, handles easily.
Not to mention, my backup 7300's ANF working so well.
I read thru the release notes and no mention of ANF, ALL MODE SQUELCH, or other BASIC, functions being added or improved upon.
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In my case leaving the external monitor connected actually helped. At first mine was like yours, I had to connect the external monitor after startup. But, I forgot to disconnect it one time and when I started the radio again, it came up sideways for a few moments and then righted itself.
Its been that way ever since.
But, I mention the ANF because there are nets that I listen to that get jammed by tuner uppers once in a while. And even in a normal QSO I've had someone tune up on the person I was talking to.
In most of the radios I currently own, that's not a problem. The ANF kills the interference without mangling the received audio. Not so with the 6000 Series radios and SSDR. PowerSDR did not have that problem. The ANF worked well on PSDR.
It just puzzles me why FRS cannot, or will not, fix this when they have clearly had a working ANF in their older software. Maybe, contesters, whom FRS seems to be expending most of their resources towards, have no need for interference fighting tools such as ANF or basic things like a working ALL MODE SQUELCH. Money talks, and I understand that. But, my $5000.00 and that of a lot of other buyers of Flex radios, is just as green as any contesters money.
I'm glad ANF isn'tan issue for you. But, there are a lot of us out here who do feel it's neccessary and important.
James
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I have had much better luck here with the ANF. I set it to #2 and it works ok, not perfect but ok. I hope they visit this soon.
People should really not compare SSDR with PSDR, they have nothing in common other than they both are used on Flex radios. Everything they do in SSDR is new ground, all new. So some things that were done in PSDR may be a challenge in SSDR. It is not like you can bring code over from PSDR to make something work.

And it took the better of 10 years to bring PSDR to were it was before Daren started working with it. I remember waiting 5 years for persistence.
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Bill, algorithms are generic. I would like to think that (if directed to do so) FRS programmers have the ability to routinely code any working algorithm to run on the new radio. This applies equally to ANF, NB, squelch, noise reduction, etc where proven algorithms exist already. I'm guessing it actually comes down to priorities passed down from the management.
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The point I am making is that coding in SSDR is much different then PSDR and much more complicated, meaning things are done in a different way. So what ever they do in SSDR it is new ground, brand new code never done before. I am repeating things Gerald has said in the past.

When Flex began coding for DSP in SSDR he called it a science experiment as they were working in SSDR. Yes there are algorithms, but they are used in SSDR much different.
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Thanks for clarifying your point Bill. I think we are actually saying the same thing then: the algorithms are well established and nothing new. But the implementation of those algorithms for the new platform is new to Flex and is breaking new ground *for them*, which Gerald described as a "science project".
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Bill, the ANF in PowerSDR is MATH to proccess the audio in the active slice's passband. If it works in PSDR the same proccess will work in SSDR. There is nothing exotic or so different about SSDR and the 6000 Series radios that they have to "break new ground" to accomplish in SSDR what they already have in PowerSDR.
James
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Incorrect, SSDR is much different beast, very complex.
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One thing I've thought of, is PowerSDR contains a LOT of open source, code. Outside of the Tracking Notch Filter, you can ask for and receive, from FRS, the source code for PowerSDR. (I have the last official release source code minus the code for the TNF)
I'm thinking that FRS cannot borrow or use, the ANF code from PSDR because it is open source and would be in violation of open source licensing.
If that's the case, them that would explain a lot.
James
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That is true James, Gerald invented PSDR, and it was and still is open source. Because Flex needed a software that would be able to do things PSDR just could never do, they broke away and SSDR is all new code from the ground up.