Again as they have stated, there will be no more new features added to previous versions. In other words there will be no more new features for v2 as they have already announced the pending release of v3 so any new features will be in that. They also did announce they will be releasing a v2 final release called v2.5 which they said will include a number of fixes.
I hope this helps.
I didn't. I didn't see anything till I bought my 6600M . And it came with v2.x.
There were and are several bugs or incomplete features that carried over from v1.x to v2.x. maybe v2.50 update will contain those fixes and completed features.
If not, I will be hesitant ( read that as won't) to purchase v3.x in hopes of getting basic features like the ANF working.
Here is the situation: I have a can of worms, Each worm does a specific job. Each worm can crossbreed with any other worm. This gives rise to a new generation of worms, most perform the tasks that their parents did but some stop others doing their specific tasks, we'll call these mutant worms 'bugs'.
Now as the owner of the can of worms, I have some specialist worm breeders who look for the mutant worms and if they are not beneficial to the colony, eradicate them, hoping that this does not affect the good worms. We call these people 'programmers'.
Sometimes, all the programmer's time is spent eradicating the bugs, and when they are all gone, they can get on with breeding some new worms, we call this adding new features or making original features better. Unfortunately doing this can cause new mutant worms to be produced so we have to go back to finding and killing them off.
As the number of worms is always growing, the number of bugs is also growing. So now we ask some other people who know a bit about our can of worms, to help us find the mutant worms, we call these people 'alpha or beta testers'. The can't kill the mutant worms but they can tell us when they find one so that our programmers can kill them.
As my can of worms gets ever larger, then I can sort out the really good worms and hopefully, make them better at their jobs and breed fewer mutant worms (bugs).
I decide that my can of worms is now in a state where I can sell my can of my worms to other people, we'll call this 'Version A'. Lots of people buy the can complete with the worms and start to use it. As they use it, they think of more good worms that they would like to have so they get in touch and say, 'can you make a worm that does this job'. I talk to my specialist breeders (programmers) and ask if they can breed this specific worm. After a bit of head scratching, they come up with a worm that does the specific task I ask for, not perfectly, but pretty good.
So I add this new worm to the can and give it to all the folks that have Version A, we'll call this 'Version A1'.
We keep adding more worms, sometimes because people ask for them, sometimes because we can see that better worms make our can better that the competition's can.
As we do this, the we reach a point where we have maybe 10 versions and we then add a monster worm, this one does something we always said was going to be possible but we couldn't do it in Version A, so we decide that we will call this 'Version B' but it has cost a lot of money to make so we sell it, as our customers already have the can, we'll call it a radio server, then all we need to sell them are the worms, so we make the price a very reasonable $199.00. Lots of the can owners buy the new set of worms are are very pleased. Some are not pleased because the worm they want is not there or isn't quite up to the task at a level that they want.
As is often the case, the people who didn't get the worm they wanted are often the most vocal, sometimes they are even polite in asking 'what about my worm'.
So I find another couple of worm breeders and keep on breeding more worms. Can you see where this is going? Breeding worms is cyclic, as each new generation arrives, it brings its own benefits and problems.
However, I know that my can and worm farm are far better than anything the competition has or is likely to have in the near future, after all I have been doing this for years and I know how to make a really good can and my worms are pretty amazing.
Most of my customers are very happy, but there are always some who want slightly different worms. We don't say to them, 'tough, we aren't going to take any notice of what you want'. What we do is try to breed the worms they want, the happy customers are all still happy and many of those that are not happy at least feel that we are trying, well most of them do but there are always a couple who will stir my worms up just for the sake of doing it.
At the end of the day, it's all about choice. I advertise my can with it's worms and you decide whether or not to buy it. At the very least, when you buy my can, you know that new worms will be offered in the future. As things are at the moment, none of the 'big' players in the market can do that because they are still making their cans the old way.
To end the analogy, I look at what Flex has done this way:
Version 1 or SSDR was small worms.
Version 2 is big fat earthworms.
Version 3 looks as though it may have real snakes.
Oh, yes, the can - my original can still works with all the worms I can produce. I made a couple of new cans with different features but I know that for the foreseeable future, all my cans works with all the worms I have ever bred.
I like snakes, roll on March!
Looks like many of you aren’t thrilled with FRS’s decisions on V3. To me, it’s obvious what’s behind it. I’m a product engineer for a well know consumer electronics company that produces digital still cameras. September starts my 40th year so I’ve been down this road many times. Our “competition” is Canon and Nikon. Because effective product design relies on market feedback I interface with our marketing people daily. 11 years ago, we introduced “mirrorless” cameras and the competition laughed at us. We than added high end video recording capability to a still camera, and again they laughed at us. But as we predicted, these innovations started the demise of the traditional digital SLR camera. Fast forward to 2019 - the “competition” is trying to compete in the mirrorless market. We recently introduced two new mirrorless cameras with a substantially larger image sensor than we’ve been using for the past 10 years. As was expected, a large part of our user base took to social media concluding that we were abandoning our legacy models and moving forward to compete in much higher and more expensive markets. As one user stated, “you guys are trying to create solutions for problems that don’t exist.” The truth is, their conclusions were totally wrong. Realizing that there was a portion of this market that wants larger image sensors, the current design was scaled up to accommodate the larger sensors. This enabled us to go after another market, while retaining our current user base. I think this is what V3 is all about.
FRS was a pioneer in SDR and has been responsible for many
innovations in the SDR evolution. V3 seems to be all about trying to increase
their foot print in the amateur radio market. I’m hoping they will do what we
did. To reassure the core user base, we’ve been releasing firmware updates and
new peripheral accessories for those who have no desire to move up. Adding
features that have been removed over the years. Wouldn’t it be nice if FRS
offered a few updates that the previous platform offered? Customization of the
filters by “right clicking” on them – maybe allowing users to create their own “skins”
to customize the GUI appearance or even improving the NR?
We all need to realize that for a company to grow, it’s not just making current customers happy, it’s about adding new customers and creating product that set them apart from the competition.
Remote operation is a very interesting concept, particularly in today's HOA world. It's probably the best growth market for high-end hamming. My personal perspective is that Flex should finish the remote use case. Unfortunately they've dropped the ball on peripheral control. Even for peripherals they resell, like the 4O3A Antenna Switch.
They've also dropped the ball on communicating who they're bullding for, what use cases they're prioritizing, and what's the best way to integrate their products into a ham station solution.
1. No decision any company makes will satisfy everyone. (Bottom Line)
2. Every decision should be based on ROI.
3. You buy a Flex and you effectively have a plug and play radio, unlike Anan which requires substantially more technical tinkering. Hooks to external software and hardware are generally more difficult. I bought my radio to use it, not to be in a perpetual beta testing mode.
4. Many version 1 users did not upgrade, and their radios work just fine. Version 2 offered added capability – those that were interested purchased it. V 3 won’t be any different.
5. Icom makes a nice radio, but it’s no Flex. Neither Icom, Kenwood or Yaesu provide service and support that comes close to Flex.To me this is what matters - the freedom to choose.
On the annual subscription thing, that is a good thing too. Look at the Microsoft Office 365 model. For an annual fee which I think is around $125 you get the entire Office Suite for 5 PC's for one year with all the feature and bug updates to boot. If FRS would do something like this for something under $100 it would be a winner and this diatribe would not exist.
At one point in Ancient History, Flex toyed with the idea of an annual subscription fee.. But hams being CHEAP caused such a huge negative outcry against an annual fee, that the idea was quickly killed. Flex then came up with a fee for a MAJOR Version Upgrade. which, of course, since Hams are Cheap also resulted in an outcry albeit not as loudly negative as the annual fee idea.
The issue is this..
It costs a LOT OF MONEY to make, fix and support software.. Features are never EXACLY what the customers want or EXPECTED them to be or THOUGHT they heard the salesman promise when they ordered them.
For Example. I rarely use ANF because the TNF feature is so superior to any notching. ANF does work but clearly does not meet the expectations of a few users. Same with NB.. I find its more than adequate but WNB is far superior to anything by Elecraft or Icom for my ultra noisy location. Again, NB does work but clearly does not meet the expectations of a few users.
if you are running a business, you need revenue to make payroll. Do you commit resources to meeting adequate but unsatisfied expectations of a few existing NON PAYING customer by giving away upgrades to old features or do you work on features that will drive in new revenue to pay the bills. BTW..IMNSHO Changing the ANF or NB or adding Squelch features would be feature upgrades
Over the years I owned a few companies in Software/hardware businesses and the ongoing development, support and maintenance costs using the version upgrade pricing model almost killed them..
We ultimately fell by accident into the annual subscription model. lost a few customers but in the long run, the companies became quite financially healthy before I sold them. But my customers were well heeled Corporations and Governments who were willing to pay the costs... because it wasn't a hobby and they needed the software to work.
Flex, OTOH, has CHEAP HAMS for customers (Not an Insult but a fact of life - I could say financially challenged but many hams are wealthy so that wont work) No matter if Flex maintains the Version Upgrade Model or the Annual Subscription Model, someone will complain about the price and value of the product. Flex can't win no matter which pricing model they use.