give Flex a call once V3 comes out and see if they will grandfather your radio into the updates.
That 6 month window is a guess, as is the delivery date, based on your announced cutoff date of Oct. 1.
As always, SSDR is a feature update that included fixes/improvements to the SSDR 2.0 base. All fixes that impact features in SSDR 1.x or SSDR 2.x will be released as version-appropriate updates soon after SSDR 3.x is available.
You only need to buy SSDR 3.x if you want the new features it includes, it is not needed to correct any known issues in SSDR 1.x or SSDR 2.x.
With a purchase date of Sept. 18, the announced Oct. 1 cutoff would mean you would have to pay the fee if you wanted to upgrade your radio to include the NEW features in SSDR 3.x., or you could wait for the upcoming SSDR 2.x update to correct any issues addressed in SSDR 3.x that are NOT new features.
I had called prior to posting here. I was given "you only need to pay if you want the 3.0 features". What the point was that I would have to pay $199 in such a sport time after purchasing the radio. Not that I may or may not want the new feature(s). There was no indication as to a timeline, but if v3.0 were to be released say the Apr 1st as mentioned above then that would mean all further development would stop and 2.x would only see maintenance releases and we are only at v2.49 at this point. Seems to be a bit early to introduce a new(er) version.
If v3.0 comes out six months from now than that is another story and I understand they have to draw a line somewhere. But as of right now they would not help to clarify this
Or, "here is our new model, buy it if you want new features". That sounds like pretty much every other radio manufacturer.
They could have said no free upgrade unless the radio is purchased AFTER the release date. Going back approximately 6 months BEFORE the release for a free upgrade is very generous of them, imo.
When I bought my 6500 2 1/2 years ago, it had all the features I wanted. I didn't buy it expecting to have features added later, free or otherwise.
I paid the fee and upgraded to v2 9 months later, mainly just because. My choice. I didn't/don't have any interest in operating remote, the main new feature of v2, but there were enough smaller improvements for me to upgrade.
v3 features, per their release on Jan 28, 2019
SmartSDR v3.0 is an optional upgrade and customers can choose to continue operation on their current version of software. Customers that have purchased a FlexRadio FLEX-6000 series transceiver or a SmartSDR v2.x license starting October 1, 2018 have already been pre-licensed for this SmartSDR v3.0 and can upgrade to v3.0 at no charge. SmartSDR v3.0 is expected to be available for download in March 2019.
Ability to Use Multiple Clients at One Location not interested in using a Maestro, so no use to me.
Reduced Station Costs for Contesters lazy/occasional contester, no interest
Enhances Remote Operation Capabilities zero interest in remote operating, or having another op log in.
In addition to the multiFLEX feature, this first release of SmartSDR 3.0 will also include:
new band settings menu/panel that allow a user to set certain settings per band like power levels, TX inhibit, ACC/TX1/TX2/TX3 enables, RCA/ACC TX request enable and HWALC I already save power levels per band, by saving them per band, the other settings I see no need to alter on a per band basis.
TX/MIC Profile Changes – all settings are now saved on the fly (as settings are changed) nope. If I am trying a new profile, I wouldn't want it to auto save/save until I'm ready to do that.
Unless something else not mentioned yet is in it, I'll pass on v3.
73, Tom N5MOA
Now in the natural progression of things Flex programmers have been working on Ver 3 for quite some time. At long last It's about ready for primetime.
I have understood since WAAAAY back that Ver 3 was going to begin Multiclient. I have been looking forward to that single feature for a long time now. I want to use the Maestro along with SSDR on the PC, period. Of course it will be capable of much more as it too progresses.. Point is that it had to happen eventually. If Multiclient is something you can live without then seriously not to worry Ver 2.4.9 is not going to disappoint. You're whole on this my friend.
Just saying I fail to see where you've been done wrong.
I’m excited to see version 3 launch, and I have to pay to upgrade my radios.
It’s going to be fun using version 3!
I’m also awake enough to notice that FRS said there will be another v2 version this year.
Also awake to notice that FRS is confident enough about the game changing capabilities of v3 to be running an expensive PR campaign in the run up.
Understanding the emotions behind the premise I emphasize with the concerns, but after paying for my upgrades just to test v3 as part of the Alpha team that sympathy is pretty limited.
I knew buying a Flex that the one thing I was certain not to experience is a static feature set - that the radio and user interface software were planned and promised to change. A lot of change too! And to ride on that train I’d have to buy upgrades.
Them’s the facts.
I have not seen a radio that you could setup a remote station so easily and I am not talking about the big guns. I have spent more on QSL card postage than I have on my radio. What have some spent on a good contest headset? When I bought my car in the fall I didn't go to the dealer in January and expect the new model. Flex Radio Systems has been more than generous.
I have had my 6600 for just over a year now and am challenged every day with the functionality and features of operating my station. If you are interested in the latest bleeding edge capability the most costly upgrade you face will be to a 2 SCU radio and that is more than $199. Or when you upgrade to a Maestro add the upgrade to the Maestro cost when you may want the 3.0 functionality. The point is you have the choice based on what you want.
For the community, we are indebted to Gerald and his team. His vision has changed the technology of amateur radio. If the competition was not pressed by the developments of Flex, there would not be a SDR receiver in the mainline products as SRD, in my opinion, was viewed as a low end receiver. The High end radios were $12K. Flex Team are amateur Zealots that we as a community need to support. If they loose that dedication, it will not be a good thing for Amateur Radio. Go to Dayton and talk to the team one on one; engineers, sales and support because it is better than listening to the echo chamber.
The cutoff date was October 1 not Sept.21. It's clear to me you posted this offensive thread subject only to stir up trouble in an attempt to get FRS to slide you into a free upgrade. Have some dignity.
Clearly some of you are taking this the wrong way.
If v3 was released a few months from now then no big deal. But here is the rub, when asked when v3 will be released they would not give me an answer but basically “you will only have to pay if you want the features in v3”. Not even a simple scheduled released date like say the 2nd or 3rd quarter of this year. So for all I know at this point it could be proverbial Apr 1st. Now I would expect to get ~ a year before one would need to pay for an upgrade, a very common practice.
Again, v3 in it self has nothing to do with this point trying to be made, it is the that I walk way from the conversion with FLEX that v3 could be released tomorrow and I would have to pay $199 if I wanted to update having my 6400m for less than six months.
Some may see that amount of money as petty cash. But for some people that is a sizable amount of money
A reminder, anyone that previously opted out of V2 of SSDR will get those updates as well as V3 updates by buying the V3 updates once released.
And there are ways we can do this.
Keeping in mind all the different types of people with many opinions.
Some people start a thread only to stir up the base.
Some start a thread from a stand point of lack of understanding and information.
Some start a thread out of frustration and think by doing so they can hurt Flex by airing their discontent with Flex in the community.
And some comment in threads because of all the above or to criticise those trying to help others.
But to all of you who rise above all that and really do make a difference,,please keep doing what your doing, helping...
I know of a couple community members that just hang on every word I say and spend their time correcting me, clearly upset with me trying to help others as an example.
We can either be a help to the community or a hindrance. It's up to us. I find myself saying things a little sharply that should be worded better.
I invite everyone to be a helpful member. This community offers something not found in any other group.
How long will my maestro rust if I want to use it only as flex control along with smart sdr?
I would feel much more comfortable if they would call it "SmartShare v1.0" or something that didn't imply the need to upgrade from 2.0.
I would feel much more comfortable if they would call it "SmartShare v1.0" or something that didn't imply the need to upgrade from 2.0.So now there is a debate regarding the naming of the software for the product line. I think you are a few years too late. You or I don't get a vote, it's done and over, get over it. I'm sure it made competitor more uncomfortable, the name certainly does imply that it's "Smart", perhaps smarter than other SDRs. Don't mean to be sarcastic but what's next, a discussion on the color of the box and how it might be offensive or uncomfortable to some people? Or, even the box shape, it's so problematic because it makes us square people feel like were being made fun of.
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