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We are a week away from the end of the year.  Any update on the power genius shipments as well as the promised tuner genius.  I ordered mine in June, 2017
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Wayne Schonfeld

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Posted 5 months ago

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KF4HR

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Based on your order date it's probably safe to assume not to many PG orders have been filled so far. (With a Dec '17 order date I'm depressed thinking how far down I must be on the waiting list.)  Hopefully we'll start hearing about new shipments going out in January. 

Odds are FRS is probably either on a skeleton crew/holiday schedule, or perhaps totally shut down for the holidays.  No doubt, a well deserved break too.
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Steve K9ZW, Elmer

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Gerald released a PGXL email on Dec 14th telling us they are ramping up to fill out orders.

If you are not on the PGXL mailing list contact FRS to get yourself added. There may even be copy posted here one the community forum.

As for your particular order and delivery projections you can always contact FRS to check.

I’m hoping my second PGXL will be released soon, so I can have one at each of my QTHs.

73

Steve
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I am on the PGXL mailing list and have seen Gerald's latest info,  And I did check with FRS months ago about my order.  The answer was, prior to the end of 2018.  I seriously doubt that will occur, so I'm not inclined to ask again.  Most of us don't mind waiting and appreciate the updates, but what we'd really like to know is, our realistic ship date.

We all share in your hopes that your second PGXL will be released soon.
(Where is a rolling eyes emoji when ya need it? :)
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I'm not sure that mentioning waiting for your second PGXL is a good idea considering that the original poster stated that they have been waiting for a year and a half for their first one

It's not being very sensitive to the frustration that others seem to be experiencing.
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Wayne Schonfeld

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I wish Flex would be public with the number of people on the list and the expected wait.  It reminds me of TESLA.
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Jim K4JAF

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good luck.... Glad I didnt order one ....  
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ON7NQ - Danny

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Contacted FRS twice about the PGXL , pre-ordered mine 09/2017...not a single mail back from FRS. Feel like left in the dark . Don't mind waiting but didn't expect being ignored.


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Burch - K4QXX

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Still waiting here as well.  Ordered mine in May of 2017
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Steve K9ZW, Elmer

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Makes sense that other than Alpha team units we’re all waiting, doesn’t it?

I deferred my second unit when selected as an add-on Alpha team tester, as I had put deposits on two PGXLs the night they were announced. Figured another would get a chance to participate as a tester by putting the second unit off.

For those of us waiting I can say my test unit has met all expectations and I’m ready for my second PGXL. No reservations.

73

Steve
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I ended up purchasing an Elecraft KPA 1500 and love it as I couldn't wait any more for the PG-XL. It interfaces beautifully with the Elecraft cable for the Flex.
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Same here
SPE 2K-FA works great even remotely with RemoteRig
RC-1216H unit over WAN/LAN with FlexRadio 6600M
And custom remote cable by them to interface between
Flex and SPE units - Works Great !!
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KF4HR

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Interesting.  I'm looking forward to hearing more about that. 
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mikeatthebeach .

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Works great with Elecraft and SPE Amps
For both Remote WAN and LAN use !!
The new Version 2 of the the new SPE 1.5K Amp
Uses Soldered down devices to the copper
Heat spreaders that Allow Continuous Duty
on FT8 at full power legal limit Is now possible !
73 Mike
FYI
more details
http://www.spetlc.com/images/press/SP...
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I was one of the first to get the PGXL.  It made way too much fan noise for me.  I understand that they needed to do that to get 1500 continuous output.  I  sent mine back.  I have a SPE 2K and just bought a SPE 1.5K both of which make very little fan noise and put out all the power I need.  
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Burch - K4QXX

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I have heard the same noise complaint about the Elecraft KPA1500.  Apparently they put out a new firmware that keeps the fan speed low unless needed.  Hopefully Flex will do the same thing.  

I am usually very patient but it's been 18 months since I ordered my Power Genius.  If it wasn't for the free antenna tuner (which now has been delayed) I would cancel my order.  I love my Flex equipment but they really jumped the gun on taking orders on the amp.  
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One beta tester comment on fan noise that I ran across was along the lines "it's there all right, but not objectionable", which is also my opinion.   Since my amp is in Austin for the 6M fix, I haven't had a chance to try the new PG XL firmware that was released earlier this month, but I did have a chance to test an intermediate firmware version that was not released, and I found a slight but noticeable decrease in fan noise at the lowest level (a decrease of about 3 db, measured with my sound level meter). 

I strongly doubt PG XL will ever be a "silent" amp at high power, but as the firmware is still being tweaked, there may be room for further noise reduction, at lower power at least.  In any case, my fallback plan was to move the amp from a lower shelf next to my desk to another location if the fan and relay noise (no pin diodes in PG XL for isolation and reliability at high power reasons) was too much for me.  Moving the amp further away is easy given the tight integration with Flex radios and LAN connectivity, but haven't found that to be necessary.  Highly subjective, of course.

I'm sure this topic will come up again, and again, as production ramps up.  But overall I've been quite happy with mine.  No regrets.  I'm really looking forward to some independent test results.

Howard
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Burch - K4QXX

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Wow, I figured all the 6M fixes would be done by now.  I guess they shipped more units than I thought.  
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HCampbell WB4IVF

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I was told mine was in the last batch to be recalled, so they should be about done.
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Wayne Schonfeld

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Thanks for the info-I appreciate it
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Wish the PGXL used these devices at 65V
https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/data-shee...
Expect to see these 1K80 devices soon from the
Competition
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